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Offended


Does something offend you? Perhaps you are offended by the things that are on television. Are you offended by nudity? Foul language? Insults? Well, you are not alone. People all over the world are offended every day.

But what does it mean to be offended? It means to be hurt or upset to be displeased or pained. So somebody makes a lewd joke and you are offended by it. You are displeased with their lack of moral fiber and obvious disregard for you feelings about the matter. So you are upset at the amount of nudity in art and the public.

So then, why are you offended? This is the key issue that I will be addressing in this wiki and if you don't like what I have to say or are offended by what I suggest then you need to read it all the way through because this is addressed to you.

People are offended for only a few reasons:
1) They are offended when their pride is challenged.
2) They are offended when their reality is challenged.
3) They are offended by something because it represents a perceived flaw in them.

Number one is simple. For instance, I consider myself an intelligent person. If some idiot were to call me stupid I would be offended. I am proud of my mind and when that pride is challenged I am displeased with the fact that I will not be able to reason with the person as they have labeled me stupid and thusly will not listen. I am hurt that someone thinks I am stupid. I am upset that I came across as being stupid. Another example would be thusly: consider the person that takes pride in their appearance, they are inherently vain and obsess over their looks. Myself, I am not the best or worst looking of people but imagine my telling one of these vain people that they were a horrible trollish creature unfit to be seen in public! That would certainly be an insult to their pride and one would expect that they be offended by such a remark. This is a perfectly normal thing. Everyone has something about themselves that they take pride in. The solution to the problem is simple: humble yourself. It has taken me many years to realize that I am quite the idiot at times. That I am not the smartest person and that I am often wrong. With this in mind it has been quite a long and hard journey and I am still not completely rid of my pride. In any case, we all need to examine ourselves and discover whether or not our pride is well placed. For the vain, vanity is not a good thing. Pride is not always a good thing. For someone who won an award it is great, for someone who accomplished something great it is warranted, but unless you are in a beauty pageant you are not going to win an award, and your outfit does not count as a great accomplishment. There are other examples of negative pride but I am far too lazy to give credit to them all. Take these as simple examples. If this is the case for you and you are offended because your pride was challenged then you must examine yourself and examine your pride. Find out why you are proud and why you were offended.

Number two is a common one. Each and every one of us builds our own reality. No matter how the world really is we all make something of it based on our own experiences. When this reality is challenged it forces us to examine our own perceptions, which is hard for most. Say you have long held a belief in something and have managed to convince yourself of its being true. Then one day someone challenges that belief. Whether it was on purpose or not people often react negatively to such things. Say that you are a devout Christian and someone tells you that your religion is a joke. They say that the bible is all a work of fiction and that your beliefs are wrong. That is certainly offensive. Your reality has been challenged. The very existence of your lord and savior has been disputed. Of course you are offended, and with good right. Or do you have the right to be offended? What would a good Christian do? Would they get all red and angry and start yelling and calling that person a vile pagan? Surely not. This applies to all people. if your reality is challenged what do you do? Again, you examine yourself and you examine your beliefs and you find out why you where offended. This is infinitely better than allowing anger to over take you.

The third reason why people get offended is because it represents some perceived flaw in them. A person who is offended by the portrayal of the penis on the statue of David is either offended by their own discomfort with such subject matter or they are offended by reason number two in that their values dictate that such things should not be public. There were people who are offended by any possibility that something might be sexual. This is due to their being uncomfortable with the subject or they are offended by their own sexuality. It is a well known fact that many homophobes are, in fact, homosexual. They hate ‘gays' because they hate themselves and thusly take it out on others. They are offended by the reminder of what they perceive as a flaw in themselves. On a similar vein atheists may be offended by public displays of religion because of some guilt they might have from not claiming a deity. It could also be due to their wishes for validation. But when everyone around them thinks differently their difference is made apparent and this makes them feel as if there is something wrong with them. In reality there is no reason for people to perceive such flaws in themselves. If they were to simply examine them and try to understand why they are offended they would better be able to change whatever negative thoughts they might be having about themselves.

The key here is self examination and introspection. When you are offended do not lash out, rather lash in. you where just challenged and you can stand strong, but only if you find out why this bothers you. if somebody calls you a wannabe and you are offended, is it because you are a wannabe or is it because you take pride in your individuality? Perhaps you need to seek individuality or you need to realize that we are all exactly the same because we are all unique? If seeing Janet Jackson's breast during the super bowl halftime show made you so upset that you could no longer perform as a person then perhaps you need to seek therapy for both the incident and to figure out the root of your problem with breasts. If you are offended by the penis on the statue of David, is it because you are insecure about your own size (for males obviously), or is it because you view nudity as something dirty. If you are offended by paintings of nude women is it because you are ashamed of your own body, is it because you feel you are lacking in some area, is it because you feel as if you have an unwanted surplus in some way, or is it because you again find nudity to be something that is disgusting. In any case, when you are offended do not whine about it, try a little introspection. Find out the root of your pain. then act accordingly.

If you were offended in any way by what I had to say then you are one of the people this message is addressed to. You are the sad person that does not know themselves. I hope that this message has not fallen on deaf ears and that you heed my advice and learn to examine your feelings. This world is becoming increasingly offensive, but not because things are going down hill. It is because we all want things our way, and we don't even know ourselves well enough to choose which is ‘our' way.

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2004-05-06 [Avoral]: It's a lot more informative when separated the way it is; it's much more organized, and easier to elaborate on. Besides, it leaves more to the mind to make the connections... Thus making it easier to swallow, rather than just thinking, "Wow, I'm offended, so that means I'm a total egotist."

2004-05-06 [HiddenFire]: i figured it was best to break it up, this is quite a bit for some people to swallow all at once. and most people would also find the fact that i would be emplicating their being an egotists offensive. which is the wonderful irony of it all.

2004-05-06 [Avoral]: Yeah, seriously... Hehehe... That's another thing I did in the formation of CI, actually... But I find that it's not as fun in application. Looks like you did well in breaking it up for efficiency.

2004-05-09 [Skyy]: I love the complaints we're getting so far...maybe we're not doing our job correctly.

2004-05-10 [JWOlette]: i agree with this site so far and since i know so much of the pain being described then perhaps i maybe able to get ur message to others and help them cope with their problems and i sense alot of great things coming from this page and their is a great amount of calmness among those here

2004-05-10 [Avoral]: Thank you, lil_one. I do believe quite firmly that this page needs to be in greater circulation. I support your decision wholeheartedly.

2004-05-10 [JWOlette]: kool i wish all the best for this page and everyone who comes to it

2004-05-11 [Skyy]: As do we all. Thank you for your time. Please come again.

2004-08-13 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: Very truthfull arguments....I know from personal expeirience that some people are really offended by art/pictures of people in the nude...My mother for instance...While I think it is a beautiful thing she thinks it must be kept (escuse the pun) under wraps...It may be that her morals are thretended or that she's a fraid that I will lose what inosence I have...or it may be that she feels her own body is inadiquit...I personally think it's both

2004-08-13 [JWOlette]: most likly its both but did u ever think that she may not want u to get corrupted by these images

2004-08-13 [HiddenFire]: it usually isn't just one thing. And if she where to not want her to be currupted then that's not being offended, that's being over protective. I suppose she doesn't realize that we see our own naked bodies every time we take a shower. *shrugs*

2004-08-13 [Avoral]: Umm... [JWOlette], she did kinda voice that "she's a fraid that I will lose what inosence I have..." Don't know if she changed it after she first posted it, but that's what I see there.

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: Ya I know she's just trying to protect me...but she's Very protective....I'm fiffteen and I'm not alowed to date...Or even go to the movies with a bunch of friends...And every time there's a rape case on the news she says "see you can't be too careful"..She did it again last night. She says guys can think I'm pretty but not hot cause "Hot is sexual"

2004-08-14 [HiddenFire]: what about pretty hot? ^_^

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: lol! Don't think I count as pretty hot...;p

2004-10-09 [Panda-monium]: Awesome, I like it, weird part was, I wasnt offended by it at all, I dont even see how it could offend someone... ah well, it did raise a question though. I am not offended by profanity, but I dont like it nor choose to use it, so whats that?

2004-10-09 [HiddenFire]: Profanity in generally is little more than a show of ignorance. They don't know their own fucking laguange so they spout dumb-ass bullshit that really does not good to prove their point. LMAO. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with a little profanity here and there... but when you use it all the time it looses it's edge and only makes you look ignorant. If I drop a computer monitor on my foot I'm not going to scream "JIMMINY CRICKET!" I'm probably going to say more than a few choice words. But if I use those words all the time they won't have the same impact. In other words, they are best saved for special occasiosn, for when you want to prove how strongly you feel about something.

2004-10-09 [HiddenFire]: That's my opinion anyway. *shrugs*

2004-10-09 [Panda-monium]: well thats what I think, to me it really shows a lack of vocabulary, and if I take the time to learn the words, I dont want to hear F*** used as an adjective five times a sentence.

2004-10-30 [Avoral]: I do.

2004-11-01 [Panda-monium]: lol, well thats ok, thats your decision, I respect that, I just dont choose to use it, and I wouldnt mind if people took the time to have a more developed vocabulary, but like I said its all about choices.

2004-11-04 [Avoral]: Hehehehehehehehehehe... I jest.

2004-11-04 [Panda-monium]: lol

2004-11-04 [JWOlette]: nice clearification hidden

2004-11-19 [T87]: I'd just like to say that the stuff on this page is awesome, and I agree wholeheartedly. Kudos to you.

2004-11-24 [JWOlette]: *thinks to herself should i say thank u for them or be mean and make them do ehhh what the hell ill do it for them* thank u very much

2004-11-24 [HiddenFire]: YOU STOLE MY THANKS! >.< LOL :P

2004-11-26 [JWOlette]: awwwww u poor thing its not gonna kill u and im srry it just takes u a while to respond to people

2004-11-26 [HiddenFire]: :P That was a joke. I'm not going to respond to everyone. *shrugs*

2004-11-26 [JWOlette]: i knew that so i did it for u

2004-11-27 [HiddenFire]: Let me put it this way, and it's going to sound harsh: You didn't contribute to this, thusly you are in no position to be thanking people for expressing appreciation for it. It just doesn't work like that. *rolls eyes* @.@

2004-11-27 [HiddenFire]: Any further comments from you, [lil_one] thare are not megan appoligizing for the assinine actions of her "pet freak" will be deleted. I'm not going to play your game.

2004-11-27 [JWOlette]: im sorry if i offended you...really i am...im just being an immature little bitch and ive realize how wrong it was of me to call you all those names...will you please talk to me? im a poor white child (wearing spikes) please im sorry?:(

2004-11-27 [HiddenFire]: I was not offended. That would be hippocritical of me. I suggest you go find something else to occupy your time.

2004-11-27 [JWOlette]: do you know where we can find someone who is easliy offended or some comformists...

2004-11-27 [HiddenFire]: You'll have to do some searching of your own for that one.

2004-12-21 [Avoral]: Look no further! We at CI LOVE pwning whiny little kids like her more than anything else! Especially when they think they're not conforming.

2004-12-21 [HiddenFire]: I only wish you where here at the time this... person decided to annoy me. A great deal of the covo was deleted due to their... stupidity and obvious attempt to anger me. So, deciding they where not going to play nice, I decided not to play at all. ^_^

2004-12-21 [Avoral]: Oh God. I wish I was there too! And this was between the 26th and the 27th? I could have conceivably been on... Were I contacted.

2004-12-21 [Panda-monium]: hmmm...

2004-12-22 [JWOlette]: yeah about that hidden i am soooo very srry for my friends stupidity i told her not to bother anyone i knew but she didnt listen so yeah im srry do u still hate me

2004-12-24 [Avoral]: Quit talking, lil_one. Hehe. You'd be better off if you quit while you're only this far behind.

2004-12-24 [Delladreing]: well said

2004-12-30 [JWOlette]: was i talking to you Tony no i didnt think so shut the hell up!!! 

2004-12-30 [Panda-monium]: you know for a wiki about not getting offended, ye seem to be doing so done ye?? :P:P

2004-12-31 [HiddenFire]: My thoughts exactly. I can taste the irony. ^_^

2004-12-31 [Panda-monium]: LOL. As can I :P:P

2005-01-16 [Avoral]: And she resorts to cursing. How cute.

2005-01-16 [Panda-monium]: oh come now. lets get off that, I am sure there are many more interesting topics of discussion.

2005-01-16 [Avoral]: True dat. ^_^

2005-01-16 [Panda-monium]: lol

2005-01-17 [razorbladefreak]: im bored!

2005-01-17 [razorbladefreak]: and a little horny

2005-01-17 [razorbladefreak]: damn it lil_one im not stupid! i angry at u now...im gonna bite u! grrrr

2005-01-18 [Avoral]: Oh yeah. Now THAT'S enlightenment.

2005-01-18 [HiddenFire]: Why do all the horny girls have to be underage and clinically insane? LOL, Joking of course. Those seem to be the only one's that admit it. LOL, o.0

2005-01-18 [Avoral]: Eh, they just claim to be clinically insane. Or they take whatever crap's fitting of them, usually via self-diagnosis. *Nodses* According to all that, I'm clinically paranoid, but in reality I'm just sensible.

2005-01-20 [JWOlette]: calll me cute again tony and i will drown you

2005-01-20 [HiddenFire]: No fighting, don't try to start anything. You can keep such comments to private messages.

2005-01-21 [Avoral]: *Pets the cute lil_one* Oh, don't worry, Hidden. I didn't plan on fighting.

2005-01-21 [HiddenFire]: oh, not you and her. She and the freak.

2005-01-22 [razorbladefreak]: if the freak ur talkin about is me...thank you for the comment!

2005-01-22 [Avoral]: Oh, okay. And [razorbladefreak], don't you mean "compliment?" Oh well, claiming to be a 'freak' isn't exactly a mark of intelligence, either, so hey.

2005-01-22 [HiddenFire]: the freak reference was purely a derivative of their name. *shrugs*

2005-01-22 [Avoral]: I knew that much.

2005-01-26 [JWOlette]: *punches tony in the gut*the freak u guys are refering to is one of my best friends i will not fight her

2005-01-26 [razorbladefreak]: i hope u feel better lil_one! and Avoral thanx for the spell check!

2005-01-27 [Avoral]: No problem. ^_^

2005-01-27 [Avoral]: Fight, lil_one. To the death. Kill or be killed.

2005-01-28 [JWOlette]: Grrrrrrr if u wanna play that way its fine with me

2005-01-29 [Avoral]: YAY! Do it, then.

2005-01-29 [JWOlette]: you are so annoying you realize this i wonder what your soon to be wife would say if she saw how childish you act

2005-01-30 [Avoral]: Last time, she said, "I love you."

2005-01-31 [razorbladefreak]: why dont people take to seriously when you say bite me? i really do mean it...so bite me please?

2005-02-01 [Avoral]: *Bites you* Eh, it's just kid stuff anyway.

2005-03-04 [Skyy]: visits the next place that was under wiki comments that hasn't been checked in...hell...I don't know. Leaves

2005-03-09 [razorbladefreak]: im bored...detention sucks...lil_one i misses you!

2005-03-12 [JWOlette]: misses you more spike

2005-03-12 [Avoral]: I misses you more, lil_one!

2005-03-12 [iippo]: This is very intelligent, I shall link to it in my house and direct people who get offended by my words to it. Thank you, author.

2005-03-12 [HiddenFire]: Thanks. ^_^

2005-03-14 [JWOlette]: *hides under box an dpoints to avoral* who are and what have you done to tony your never nice this is scary are you sick and i dont miss you your mean and omg what the hell are you on i want some!!!!

2005-03-14 [Avoral]: AWWWWWWWWW!!! *Loves [JWOlette] lots of lots of lots!* *Chipmunk kisses!*

2005-03-15 [JWOlette]: ahhhhhhhh tooo much lov tooo much lov make him stop make him stop *rocks back and forth under her box*

2005-03-15 [Avoral]: *Pets and showers with hugs and bunnies and flowers and rainbows and vultures and kisses and ^_^!!!*

2005-03-17 [JWOlette]: a wabit yeh i love wabits but you can stop this now its gettin scary

2005-03-17 [Avoral]: *Richard D. James smile* What do you mean? *Hugs and rolls around with catnip*

2005-03-18 [JWOlette]: i like bunnies and im not in the mood to be fucked with tony im being harassed by some guy on here

2005-03-19 [Avoral]: Me?

2005-03-21 [razorbladefreak]: lil_one! i misses you mostest! (is that a word?) now what about bunnies?

2005-03-22 [Avoral]: It's clearly [razorbladefreak], then! *Takes up arms and pitchforks* *The pitchforks, of course, being held by the arms he's carrying* *No, not weapons. God, you're all dense.*

2005-03-24 [JWOlette]: no its not you that im being harraseed by and if it was i would not care cuz im so used to it and no spike i missssseisises you the mostisiteededid

2005-03-26 [Avoral]: Is it sexual harrassment? If so, you don't have to take it. I saw that on TV, and TV never lies.

2005-03-26 [JWOlette]: not yet but its gettin there and he got banned

2005-03-26 [Avoral]: Damn.

2005-03-26 [JWOlette]: this is kinda odd we usally fight when werer in the same room but who cares so what hav you been up to latly

2005-03-26 [Avoral]: Eh, it's usually me making a comment about nothing in particular, you shouting hate messages at me, and me toying with your head. I've been just kind of existing. ^_^

2005-03-27 [JWOlette]: yeah its fun messin with you at times but what happened to the page it turned white it used to be green i think

2005-03-27 [Avoral]: I don't know, last I checked it was me doing the "messin." But I don't know; I still see only green.

2005-03-28 [JWOlette]: im color blind and for a second it looked white and u it is u that does the messin

2005-03-29 [Avoral]: Damn skr8 it is. Manipulation is fun.

2005-03-31 [JWOlette]: ummm if you say so

2005-04-10 [RAZORblade bunnykiller]: i say so! how goes it lil_one! shaggy boy misses you!!!

2005-04-11 [JWOlette]: tell him i misses him more!!!!! and i misesses u too spike

2005-04-12 [Avoral]: If you continue this, you'll stop missing each other and lose contact.

2005-04-13 [JWOlette]: no we wont!!! i see her almost everyday!

2005-04-17 [Avoral]: You should change that. You will see only me. And it will be only when you close your eyes.

2005-04-25 [Tails Of the Revolution]: that's just creepy.

2005-04-25 [Avoral]: Yeah it is.

2005-04-25 [JWOlette]: omg ur so nasty i hate u and maybe in ur dreams

2005-04-25 [Avoral]: I was thinking less on the nasty side and more on the creepy side. You know, where you close your eyes and see me smiling in a rather unsettling manner. Kinda like Richard D. James.

2005-04-25 [JWOlette]: ummm no i would never dream of u in a million years

2005-04-25 [Avoral]: What if I were to stalk you and start the whole dreamwalking thing?

2005-04-26 [JWOlette]: then iw ould be forced to shoot you i dont screw around with stalkers ive had it happen once and it will not happen again

2005-04-28 [Avoral]: Eew, you screwed your stalkers?

2005-04-28 [Kayne]: Why not? That way the'll probably stop.

2005-04-28 [Avoral]: Not if you're good enough at it.

2005-04-28 [Kayne]: Meh, most stalkers are amatuers. Nobody knows how to stalk properly.

2005-04-28 [JWOlette]: No i havent screwed my stalker and if i did it would only make him more obbsessed with me

2005-04-29 [Kayne]: i dont screw around with stalkers ive had it happen once You did say you did.

2005-04-29 [JWOlette]: i know but i thought tony would know what im talking about i do not mess around with my stalkers i usually light them on fire or stab them or shoot them

2005-05-01 [Kayne]: That's illegal! You should go to jail.

2005-05-02 [JWOlette]: i know but its fun!!!!!!!!! and you get away with everything where im from cuz the cops wont go there

2005-05-02 [Kayne]: Nice.

2005-05-02 [JWOlette]: very nice

2005-06-02 [serendipity flicious]: just curious. do you believe that the words "under God" should be in the pledge of allegiance? would that fall under an atheist being offended because someone brought up a deity? i kind of thought that that is like a separation of church and state-sort-of-thing.

2005-06-03 [JWOlette]: no i dont i mean what about all the kids that are different religions do they have a right not to say the pledge do they have the rigt to not be critisied or offended once at school i really think that we shouldnt have to say the pledge because of those words isnt that like shoving the christian religion down someones throat and there is suppossed to be the seperation of church and state

2005-06-05 [Tails Of the Revolution]: ...Mad punctuation skillz.

2005-06-08 [JWOlette]: ummmmmm thank you???

2005-07-12 [moira hawthorne]: one more issue that should be addressed... those who are offend... say it is b/c they are save guarding the innocents of children... any mother of a child knows... it is very difficult without force to persuade a child to do anything they dont want.. they are stronger than 'the offended person' would believe... and if something does not interest them... sexuality or language or behaviour they dont see it as they are very self centered individuals... and if they react at all than it is b/c you did! and they have LEARNT THAT THEY WILL GET ATTENTION FROM YOUR REACTION!

2005-07-21 [Avoral]: Only problem is... People don't want freedom OF religion, but freedom FROM religion. Hence the reason stupid kids whine endlessly about any sort of religious whatnot in school period.

2005-07-22 [Iscariotica]: "Another example would be thusly: consider the person that takes pride in their appearance, they are inherently vain and obsess over their looks. Myself, I am not the best or worst looking of people but imagine my telling one of these vain people that they were a horrible trollish creature unfit to be seen in public! That would certainly be an insult to their pride and one would expect that they be offended by such a remark." Not necessarily. If they are truly vain as to have complete pride in their appearance, then they would likely disregard this comment as idiocy and/or jealousy.

2005-08-04 [Yiwerra]: also called ignorance in general.  hi tom :)

2005-08-04 [JWOlette]: hi avoral how are you yes im back to annoy you for now

2005-08-09 [HiddenFire]: I think if you don't want to say the pledge because of one word then dont. No one can force you to speak except by torture... and that just isn't going to happen. What I actually believe should be done is that the "God" in the pledge should be lowercased without telling anyone. Just all of a sudden change it in all the documents... see how long it takes people to notice it. That would make me laugh.

2005-08-09 [HiddenFire]: and Iscariotica is probably right... they would shrug that statment off... then go to the bathroom and vomit for half an hour so that their toes won't be so chubby. o.0

2005-08-12 [Avoral]: Wait, which one are you?

2005-08-13 [threelade]: People forget or never understand that we are ultimately responsible for our feelings. I.E. You didn’t make me angry, I allowed you to make me angry. I can’t make you anything but you can allow my words, actions or feelings to do some serious damage to your personal peace of mind. Being offended is the same. You cannot offend me, only I can allow your words, actions or feelings to offend me.

2005-08-13 [threelade]: By the way I liked your essey.

2005-08-13 [Blood.Lust]: In truth your essey is right. But there are people that truely are offended to such things because of the innocence of them selves or others... who are you to deside if that innocence is ended right here and now? Also just because something offendes sobody becasue they are not comfortable with themselves dosnt make it right to offend them... ( I complettly agrea with your essey but I am playing devils advocit... P.S. I realy do agrea and think it is getting out of control in america were the most sensitive make the rules.)

2005-08-17 [Rambert]: I like your ideas, however-- you're missing a crucial reason why people get offended: When their morals are challenged. Morals are quite different from reality, and are only slightly connected to pride, and have almost nothing to do with personal flaws. What people value; cherish; deem respectable; these things also can be insulted, and thus offend someone. So... I think you need a new paragraph : )

2005-08-17 [Blood Raven]: LotRFreak here seems to be right... wicked ^^ Morals and ideals can indeed be a target for offensive remarks.

2005-08-18 [Klopstock]: omg

2005-08-18 [Rambert]: So... is the writer going to add another paragraph? :P lol

2005-08-18 [shotokan_gal]: Give him a chance, I doubt he's even read the recent comments yet. Despite the last-author info I believe [HiddenFire] is the original writer.

2005-08-19 [AbLam]: I thought that [Lost in Illusions] was the original writer...

2005-08-19 [AbLam]: It's in his house, anyways.

2005-08-19 [Rambert]: o.o Yeah, that's what I thought too...

2005-08-19 [shotokan_gal]: Really? Well, if you go to the first or second page version it was edited by [HiddenFire], who's also the page-owner.

2005-08-19 [Rambert]: heh, well whatever... lol

2005-08-21 [Blood Raven]: it's in more than 1 house. I got here through the house of someone who's name is too long too remember by heart...

2005-08-22 [Avoral]: Nice touch on that, freaky seventeenth ring-lord.

2005-08-22 [Rambert]: lol I've never been called that before XD

2005-08-23 [Yiwerra]:

[AbLam]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  >.<

2005-08-24 [Avoral]: Me either, if it makes you feel better. *Eats [AbLam]*

2005-08-25 [Yiwerra]: o.o  don't chew too hard, we are friends ^___^

2005-08-29 [Avoral]: Oh. *Gives crushed neck back* *Puts Band-Aids on it*

2005-08-30 [Yiwerra]: :P

2005-09-11 [Sagacious Turkey]: I find this page very offensive...

2005-09-12 [Avoral]: Good.

2005-09-12 [Rambert]: lol *does the chorusing "Ohhhhh!" that happens whenever someone's been dissed* XD

2005-09-12 [Sagacious Turkey]: I also find your odor quite offensive...

2005-09-12 [Rambert]: whose odor?

2005-09-12 [Sagacious Turkey]: ...not to mention, that picture of a naked man on your shirt...

2005-09-12 [Sagacious Turkey]: Why, Avoral of course!

2005-09-12 [Rambert]: ah, ok. As long as it isn't me :D lol

2005-09-12 [Avoral]: IT'S NOT AN ODOR! *Nods matter-of-factly* It's a fragrance.

2005-09-12 [Sagacious Turkey]: Uh huh... riiiiiiight...

2005-09-13 [Avoral]: HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE your parents named you Hue.

2005-09-13 [Delladreing]: with the surname Jass, my my they were cruel

2005-09-13 [Sagacious Turkey]: *smacks head* ...yeah... and my best friend's name is Chris P. Bacon...

2005-09-13 [Delladreing]: ah what a world we live in

2005-09-13 [Rambert]: Yes, but have you ever met a woman by the name of Anita Bath? Now she's got a strong fragrance, if you know what I mean... XD

2005-09-14 [Avoral]: You see, that's odor.

2005-09-23 [Stephen]: Wow, vwey well written and thought out, I like it.

2005-09-23 [Rambert]: *poke* whoever wrote this STILL has not addressed my suggestion for revision :P

2005-09-28 [shotokan_gal]: The person who wrote this isn't online very often at the moment :P give him a bit of a break

2005-09-28 [Rambert]: *shrug* Thought I'd just reiterate, in case he'd forgotten...

2005-09-29 [Avoral]: He's craaaaaazy. I hear he has bugs in his head and wears toe socks on his face.

2005-09-30 [Rambert]: oooooh, toe socks. The last time I wore those were in like, sixth grade.... and they were stripey. *Gets lost in memories of socks* o.o

2005-10-05 [Avoral]: Oh. Em. Gee. Mine were stripey too! ^_^!!!

2006-03-01 [Avoral]: What changed?

2006-04-09 [Canvas Confessions]: eh but this entire wiki is based on being offended by goth/satanists/etc blahblahblah lolz =p

2006-04-11 [Avoral]: Wrong wiki.

2006-04-19 [Wilde Card]: Oops, I was looking for discussion on the above material. My mistake. xD

2006-11-10 [HiddenFire]: [Avoral] bugs in my head, yes. Toe socks go on my cock. :P

2006-11-10 [HiddenFire]: Ramberta, you think I need to add a paragraph? Morals, morals, let me see: Morality refers to the concept of human ethics which pertains to matters of good and evil. So if you believe it is evil for someone to play a musical instrument in church then you will be offended if this happens? Morality is directly linked with a person's reality. IE: good people don't make out in public because that's just not what good people do. Thusly, seeing people making out results in offense because they are doing something that is contrary to the way that the world works... or the way you think it should work.

2006-12-28 [Avoral]: Holy flunk.
That's ingenious.
So you can whip it out at any time and it won't be indecent exposure.

2007-08-31 [HiddenFire]: Actually, that sounds about right. In an ideal world I could run around naked and it would be ok. However, I don't do so because... well... unless it was summer time, it would be rather cold. And if it where summer time, i wouldn't want a sun burn on the only part of my body that never really sees the sun... doesn't so like much fun.

2007-09-05 [Avoral]: Well, not at first. But when you can show off a complete lack of tanline?
Erm...
You can probably work that into something.

2007-09-21 [HiddenFire]: It hurts when it gets burnt... but I bet putting aloe on it afterwards is almost worth it. @.@ ... actually, skip the burn, just go strait to step two.

2007-09-22 [Avoral]: I just hate that hardened feeling the aloe leaves.

2007-09-23 [HiddenFire]: @.@

2007-12-06 [Mystereality]: wow, this was really well written. very accurate.
people are selfish, and do not easily compromise. words are just words, and only take the meaning that we give them, so there is no real reason to get offended. of course, there are some assholes that say offensive things just to get people worked up (trolls or flamers, i think they are called in the forums). Trying to offend just for attention is just a sign of immaturity. The world is not becoming more offensive, people are just not maturing fast enough mentally. Some of us are truly shallow in that respect.
The idea of our own reality is very true, as we believe what we want and put faith in anything (and nothing). A clear-cut example is giving authority to people. What gives me reason to believe what politicians, policemen, nutritionists, celebrities, or anyone has to say? I have no reason to believe them, honestly, unless I myself give them authority to tell me what to believe. Our faiths are in the wrong places sometimes. I just wish more people would start thinking like this. I guess the absence of their thoughts makes the smart thoughts more worthwhile...

2007-12-07 [Avoral]: Yeah, trolls and flamers, them's the words. And well said.

2007-12-07 [HiddenFire]: Now, trying to offend people really isn't that bad. I mean, I sell and wear t-shirts that proclaim in big letters:

Sometimes... Puppies Just Die.


I know this offends, but for the most part there are two groups: those who are offended by the shirt, and those who think it's freaking hilarious. In reality, puppies do sometimes just die. It's not a lie. I actually use the shirt to teach people my views on death. So I suppose I can justify it... granted, it's pretty shaky logic. I really do enjoy seeing people's faces when they see the shirt. Either way (love it or hate it), it puts a smile on my face.

Sometimes people need to be offended though. For instance, suggesting to a goth that we're all PINK on the inside in an effort to get them riled up. That is justifiable because it could potentially cause enough introspection to cause them to see their own vanity. Offensive people really do provide a certain service.

The fun part is that many intend to hurt by offending people. Some, however, acutally help. Being offended helps us grow as people. I would go as far as to say that we all need to be offended on a pretty regular basis. It's good for you, puts hair on your chest.

2007-12-07 [Avoral]: I love it.

2008-01-20 [Mortified Penguin]: ...*eats ramen*...

2008-05-12 [Sagacious Turkey]: ...

2008-08-08 [Anna Danae;]: Hi

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