2007-03-19 [Artsieladie]: [Captain Roadie Of Jingles], I think you might mean "embrace", instead of "imbrace". I'm not mentioning this to be critical, but the word is a main focal point to your poem. Good poem! :D
2007-03-19 [Captain Roadie Of Jingles]: oh now i see.lol!thank you
2007-03-20 [Artsieladie]: You are welcome! :D
2007-03-31 [xido]: This has been added to the ECM pages.
2007-04-03 [Vampire Akis]: Can't get any crappier.
2007-04-05 [xido]: I have never led a discussion on poetry as art, but I am sure that this portion could use some discussion on the topic.
There are a lot of emotions involved in this 'Embrace', which is central to a transformation from human to vampire.
Any other ideas, comment, or questions to/from the poets?
2007-04-05 [Vampire Akis]: If only I knew what you mean...
2007-04-05 [DRAMATIC CHEESE NIP!!]: Hm... I actually understand what you mean... I wish to ponder upon it.
2007-04-07 [xido]: Those rules are great. thank you, m'lady Sharon of the Wonders.
To Akis: I want to lead a critical thinking discussion on these works which will help up to define and understand the unique views and thoughts behind these written pieces. Like any other form of art, they can be reviewed in a critical thinking manner.
Perhaps thinking of these poems in a different way will help. Consider their inner parts, like taking them apart sentence by sentence. See if that creates any new thoughts on the work.
Question or discuss as you see fit with the other authors.
I have posted the following discussion topic in the other ECM sessions that deal with art, because it is good for artists to critically think about their work and the works of others. See if you can choose an artistic element of these works and talk about it, or how it makes you feel, or even what else it makes you think about...
Discussion topic #2:
Choose your favorite work. Don't tell which one it is.
Choose one of the following Art Elements or Principles, and tell us how the work you like best displays this asset:
Space, Line, Shape, Form, Value, Color, Texture, Balance, Unity (Reptition, Variety, Rhythm), and Emphasis
Tell us about this aspect of the work or the phrase it is used in. Respond to others' posts if you can, as well.
2007-04-07 [Captain Roadie Of Jingles]: hey Xido...would you be talking about my poem when you said there is alot of emotion behind this "Embrace"?
2007-04-08 [xido]: Yes, that was the one that made me think of it. I wonder if this transformation is part of the human psyche working in an emotional or spiritual manner. Perhaps that is one of the reasons why vampirism is a semi-cultural phenomena or popular subject. Do you have any insights on this?
2007-04-08 [Captain Roadie Of Jingles]: The "Embrace"is more then just a transformation
2007-04-16 [xido]: Both are true. One is subjective, while the other is a bit more objective. I was seeing the objective view, as from an author's perspective, while from the newly-embraced
Good insight. ;)
2007-04-20 DanteMennoRei: YOU FOOLS!!! DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT YOU MERE MORTALS CAN COMPREHEND A RACE OF GODS WHO HAVE LIVED A THOUSAND OF YOUR LIFETIMES? You shall all PERISH INTO AN ETERNAL DEATH OF BLACK FIRE AND AGONY!!! YOU DARE EVEN ADRESS US AS IF WE WERE EQUAL? YOU SHALL ALL DIE!
2007-04-20 DanteMennoRei: You cannot understand what it is like to live and live and live and keep on living until you become tired of life, until you have seen things no person should live long enough to see, until you yearn for death but are too much of a coward to face the sun.Always wanting to be human, just as you wish to be immortal.If you say you want to live forever, you are a fool. My dearest wish is to die, to rest from this waking nightmare called eternity!
2007-04-20 DanteMennoRei: KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-04-20 [Captain Roadie Of Jingles]: right....well we all know your a fake ass vampyre wannabe....fir
2007-04-20 DanteMennoRei: KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-04-20 DanteMennoRei: I may not know the ways of the VAMPYRE but i do look the part. I am also currently a member of the Don Henrie Club. I dont suppose you know who that is?
You seem to know a lot on the subject though so would you consent to teach me Thine secret ways? O O
2007-04-20 DanteMennoRei: I may be a fake ass wannabe but I DO truly wish to ascend to the level of immortal. Can you please teach me how?
2007-04-20 [xido]: O.o
2007-04-20 [xido]: We are all immortal in spirit. It is the flesh that is weak. That is why the host of undeath requires death. That is the true beauty of the transformation
Such also is the beauty of Wraeththu. Sanguine, and with a touch of the macabre - a hint of indulgent sexuality. Such is the way of my vampirism. The blood-borne, incepted of the youth of the world is consuming and divergent. It breeds death, change, and instantaneous revolution.
2007-04-20 [Priscilla Primkin]: I think my poem here touches on the problem of immortality. It has to do with insatiable desire, the fact that one can't have one's cake and eat it too, so to speak, if vampires actually think in those terms.
2007-04-20 [Mortified Penguin]: Why do idiots spell words like vampyre, faerie, or even "colour"?! ...it's vampire, fairy, and color!! ...*eats ramen*...
2007-04-20 [DRAMATIC CHEESE NIP!!]: yeah, but there are other ways to speel words depending on what centuary you are reffering to. Like the old way to write color was colour and fairy was spelled with a ph...
2007-04-20 [Priscilla Primkin]: Colour, and honour, and splendour, etc. are still spelled with the "our" ending in the U.K., and members of the British Commonwealth, such as Canada and Australia. Americans don't have the monopoly on English spelling.
2007-04-20 [Mortified Penguin]: Stupid UK...
2007-04-21 [Artsieladie]: The way the words are spelled in the UK doesn't make the UK stupid nor the people therein. British English was around long before the American English of today. :P
2007-04-21 [Mortified Penguin]: How do you know?
2007-04-21 [Nylen Estrall]: ...
2007-04-22 [Captain Roadie Of Jingles]: how do they know?!The ENTIRE ameican heritage was based on english heritage...eng
2007-04-22 [Mortified Penguin]: Sorry... I couldn't understand you through all that bad grammar... *eats ramen*...
2007-04-23 [Nylen Estrall]: Actually (though I don't quite like it) it's not considered bad grammar anymore. Just when I graduated the IBO informed all international teachers that such spelling is not to be penalized, it is to be regarded the same way as the one we'd consider normal. See? Now I had to side with them, I want to contradict you so much :)
2007-04-23 [Mortified Penguin]: I go by the dictionary and the spelling on microsoft word... Except when involving complex diseases...
2007-04-23 [Priscilla Primkin]: Try dictionary.com
2007-04-24 [VampiricAuthor]: Hi. I'm new to Elftown. I know this is gonna sound REALY stupid/lame but I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to enter the Vampire Poem competition? I'm pretty bad at computers to be honest so I'm going to seem like an ammature most of the time. Any help youy could give me on this would be REALY apprieciated. Thanks.
2007-04-24 [Mortified Penguin]: Click "Edit this page", scroll down and type your poem between the two "hr"'s under "Written by [Mortified Penguin]" and above "External Poems:"... then click "submit changes to this page"...
2007-04-24 [Artsieladie]: Pretty much as [Mortified Penguin] said. :) If you find you are still having difficulty with the whole concept, message me & I'll help you however I can. I was once where you are, so I don't mind showing one the ropes. Welcome to Elftown! :D
2007-04-25 [xido]: Sometimes people just do it for flavour, you-who-eats-r
2007-04-25 [Mortified Penguin]: ...callin' me a Yoohoo? ...Do I look like a chocolate beverage to you?
2007-04-25 [xido]: a tad bit.
2007-04-25 [Mortified Penguin]: ...racist! ...I'm Mexican by the way...
2007-04-25 [Captain Roadie Of Jingles]: hey hey hey!cant we all just get abong(along)lol....chill now and i think we are getting off topic by the way..
2007-04-25 [Priscilla Primkin]: I like chocolate...
2007-04-25 [Mortified Penguin]: There's no topic... unless you mean vampires... which no one was talking about...
2007-04-25 [DRAMATIC CHEESE NIP!!]: the topic was discussing vampire poetry?
2007-04-25 [Mortified Penguin]: Uh... no one was discussing it... and if the topic wasn't being discussed, then it would only make sense to talk about something else...
2007-04-25 [VampiricAuthor]: That's true. And thank you for your help.
2007-04-25 [xido]: I did indeed begin a discussion on poetry as literary art, with an emphasis on critique and analysis. Few joined the discussion, though it is still open for input.
2007-04-26 [Captain Roadie Of Jingles]: hey [VampireicAuthor] very good poem indeed but the types are kinda wrong...there are Sang,Psi,and Empath,and Hybrid...and Psi's feed on ENERGY,not emotions...Emp
2007-04-27 [VampiricAuthor]: Well I based it on everything that I have learned from lots of research and in all that I have read, I've never heard of empaths exsept as a sub-division of Psis. Thank you for using your knowledge to educate me further on that. I'll know for next time. Also, thank you both for your kind words.
2007-04-28 [Captain Roadie Of Jingles]: you are very welcome for both my knowlegde and my kind words...i hope you to have the chance to return the same curtesy in due time....
2007-05-05 [VampiricAuthor]: As do I. Sorry it took so long to reply. Bit of a nightmare with my computer. Lol
2007-05-05 [Artsieladie]: *applause for all* There's some really good poetry here! As moderator of this page, I only had to make a very few minor edits. I just need to verify with:
[Captain Roadie Of Jingles] -
Dementoring ---> De mentoring?
radication ---> eradication or radiation or something else?
Again, great writings, everyone! :D
For reference: page version #37
2007-05-06 [Artsieladie]: No problem. Thanks for getting right on it! I tried to edit to respect the style of each entry. :P
2007-05-07 [FetishFaerie]: Thank you. ;) That poem is ooold, but it's still one of my favorites. Most of my other vampire poetry is just too erotic, anyway. XD
2007-05-07 [Captain Roadie Of Jingles]: lol...right on!
2007-05-22 [Priscilla Primkin]: Is a meer mortal like a meerkat?
2007-05-23 [Hereby Deleted]: a meer mortal is not like a meerkat... they are two very different things... a meer mortal is a weak poor pathetic mortal (someone who dies) and a meerkat is an animal who lives in the wild and eats rubbish! see...???
2007-05-23 [Priscilla Primkin]: Then you'll be wanting to spell it "mere" and not "meer", as the latter means ocean in German.
2007-05-23 [Hereby Deleted]: in german but i am english! ok, spelling mistake i see... thankyou!
2007-05-23 [Priscilla Primkin]: You're welcome.
2007-05-23 [Artsieladie]: I fixed a few spelling errors. :D
2007-05-23 [Hereby Deleted]: sorry, i do make mistakes sometimes and that was one of them, i get so busy writing i forget to check spelling. thanks a bunch
2007-05-24 [Artsieladie]: Eh, no worries! I do the same. *winks* :)
2007-05-24 [Hereby Deleted]: my poem isnt that good compared to everyone elses, i didnt pick a good 1 i don't think! never mind!
2007-05-24 [Captain Roadie Of Jingles]: hello all....sorry for the lack of entrys...have been busy with two jobs now and writers block.lol...wi
2007-05-24 [Artsieladie]: [Hereby Deleted], you should never compare your creativeness to that of others, for your works are yours & theirs is theirs. I know it sounds simple & trite, but truth & reality are more often than not, simple. You may compare it to your own, other works, b/c it is all yours. Personally, I'm not a big fan of what critiques say or don't say about anyone's creativity, b/c they are only looking at it from their perspective. If everyone created according to the perspective of the critics, the true artist would be lost. It's important that an artist of any genre, form, style, etc., create from within themselves, not what others want to see or read. Create from within yourself. There will be those that like it & there will be those that don't, but remember, it is only their opinion...& they are entitled to their opinions, just as you are to yours. Be proud of your work for it is yours! If you mold or model your creativity according to the wishes of others, your work will lose it's uniqueness & therefore become, not your work, but that of others. :D
2007-05-24 [Mortified Penguin]: If you model it after the wishes of others, it will become great. Why make something that nobody wants? If you want to improve, listen to the critics of others and use them in your work.
2007-05-24 [Priscilla Primkin]: I say learn what makes great art or, conversely, what makes art great. Then decide if yours matches up or not. Art by committe doesn’t ever produce great art, it is always mediocre because it aims to please the most people. Great art has something that stands out against other art, that makes it memorable, enduring.
2007-05-25 [Hereby Deleted]: thankyou, i see what you mean.. yes, thats really good advice, thankyou. i shall think of that whenever i next put my own work down.
2007-05-25 [Artsieladie]: You're welcome. :)
2007-05-25 [Hereby Deleted]: i bet i sound really pathetic but i really don't care! so how is everyone?
2007-05-26 [Morningstar Rising]: We all have doubts about our writing, its only human to have them.
2007-05-26 [Hereby Deleted]: yes, thats true i suppose... but then again its how you like your work and whether others will too but i don't care if people don't like it!
2007-05-28 [Morningstar Rising]: I write cause I enjoy it, and if others like it, well that is a bonus. :)
2007-05-28 [Hereby Deleted]: yes, same here
2007-06-02 [xido]: agreed
2007-06-02 [Artsieladie]: *nods* :)
2007-06-02 [Priscilla Primkin]: This is an interesting discussion. I also belong to Writersco.com where the whole idea is to get others to comment on your work (and to comment on theirs) in order to improve yourself as an author. It would seem that approval from our peers is important so that we can reach a larger audience. If we only wrote for our own pleasure, there would be no reason for sharing it with others at all, or entering our compositions in contests such as this one. We are all looking for approval in some way or other when we do this. It would be false to say we “didn’t care” what others thought, for if we truly didn’t, we wouldn’t expose ourselves in such an intimate and potentially embarrassing way.
2007-06-02 [Artsieladie]: Good point. At the same time, though, we must remember that we can't please everyone for we all have different likes & dislikes, whether it be the artist or the critic. This is in actuality a good thing, really, b/c if we all liked the same thing, it would be a boring world. Other's thoughts, ideas & opinions can be taken into our thought processes, but the core of our creativity must remain from within us. When I see a work of any form & I know who has created it w/o looking, I think this person has reached a very important level in their art. I guess what I'm trying to say is that we can always improve on our style & technique, as long as we maintain the true core of it. :)
2007-06-02 [Priscilla Primkin]: *nods sagely*
2007-06-02 [Hereby Deleted]: good points raised, i think we all need some satisfaction from our poetry but also expect some gratitude too so that we feel more satisfied. it also encourages us to write more in time and even though we may not always get the response we want we still aspire for something better and try to experiment with the advice given to us so that our poetry is better however sometimes the simplist of poems is the most effective.
2007-06-02 [Priscilla Primkin]: Do not confuse simpleness (as opposed to simplicity) with spare elegance. But you are correct, I think.
2007-06-02 [Hereby Deleted]: true, i meant like structure and clear description of what the audience is supposed to think or feel at a certain point in the poem!
2007-06-02 [Morningstar Rising]: I don't know, I never considered myself a poet, have not been writing them for very long. I do like to write them and I do get happy when someone likes my work, but I don't crave the attention. To tell you the truth it really surprises me when someone says that they do like what I wrote. I never thought much about why I enter contests, will have to sit down and plunder that one. I too am a memeber of Writersco and I do enter some of my writings and poetry there, I think it's good to know what others think of my work. It does help me to be a better writer, well at least I hope it does. LOL
2007-06-03 [xido]: I am more of a creative writer than a poet, myself.
2007-06-04 [VvVZAHUNDRAVvV]: thanx doll for pointing that out to me it was supposed to be
2007-06-04 [Lakayana]: it could be "Vzondrav" or "Vzaundrav"
2007-06-04 [Mortified Penguin]: I would think it would just be pronounced "zahundra"... with some V's...
2007-06-04 [xido]: Gesundheit.
2007-06-04 [Mortified Penguin]: Darn Germans...
2007-06-05 [Artsieladie]: I thought it would be a good idea to have the entries numbered, for they are in other Elftown competitions & besides, it's nice to look at the latest poem entered & know how many have participated in a glance. :D
2007-06-05 [Priscilla Primkin]: That’s actually a very good idea. Thanks for going to the trouble to do that.
2007-06-05 [Artsieladie]: Eh, it's no trouble. It took a grand total of about 5 minutes. :D
2007-06-17 [FetishFaerie]: I'm lucky number 13. XD Awesome.
2007-06-17 [Artsieladie]: *grins* I see I'm not the only one that doesn't consider the #13 as unlucky. :D
2007-07-01 [Maeve104]: Erm, when will we know who won?
2007-07-01 [Artsieladie]: Hold your horses! lol We're waiting for everyone's opinions & choices. Soon you'll know. :D
2007-07-01 [Maeve104]: lol. ok. :)*jumps up and down excitedly.* Can't wait! ^^
2007-07-01 [Artsieladie]: I know how the waiting is. It seems like forever. *pats & smiles*
2007-07-03 [Morningstar Rising]: Good luck to all.
2007-08-26 [Morningstar Rising]: Congrats to all the winners.
2007-08-26 [Mortified Penguin]: I am honestly shocked that I won anything for that short, terrible poem... but... since I did... when do I get my badge?!
2007-08-26 [Artsieladie]: Yes, Congrats to all the entrants & the winners. I'm just tickled pink with the great turn out & I thank each & every one for participating! *huggles all*
Now, for your question, [Mortified Penguin], if you don't receive your badge in a week or so, you might ask [Sunrose] about it. :)
2007-08-27 [stevedoyle]: Congratulation
2007-08-28 [Maeve104]: Thank you! :D *happy dance*
2007-08-29 [Priscilla Primkin]: Thank you. It was an interesting challenge.
2007-10-18 [Artsieladie]: I just fixed a typo. :P
2011-12-05 [kians mummy]: Has this been forgotten about
2011-12-20 [Mortified Penguin]: Yes. Why?