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Healing In Elftown

  Good day. This is [Kiddalee] talking. You may have seen this posted in my house:

A Warning
I'm back after a long break from Elftown. I left because it didn't make me feel good. I think I can give it another try, a greater, but pickier one. The saying, "You only get as much out of a community as you put in," only applies when you avoid taking out what you would abhor putting in.


Yes, like a lot of older users, I left Elftown in disgust and then slowly came back. So why exactly did I leave?
1. Some people here are elitist.
•I don't know if this is still true, but in the past, the guards have gotten away with being downright rude to offenders. I understand that the guards have a right to do their job, to rebuke offenders, to ban the real jerks here, but not to be insulting and humiliating to just anyone who messes up.
•Civilians have been following the guards' example of just hating the idiots here, but as they have less power, they make no efforts to solve the problem by politely telling the poor fools what they're doing wrong and setting a good example. They are more satisfied to grumble amongst themselves or insult the fools blatantly, which only teaches them to keep being spiteful.
•Various people have created wikis especially for listing and insulting people that they dislike. Umm... guys? This solves nothing, and is extremely immature, which of course makes it hypocritical. If someone is that annoying to you, try reporting, blocking, or if you have the authority, banning them.
•Most people online just don't know how to debate. They're too busy getting personal and telling the other side how stupid they are to properly state their case. I admit that I could have avoided these situations if I don't like debating online, but until they just became too full to surf on dial-up, I used to be addicted to the forums here.
2. Too many kids here want to cyber.
•Lately, the sex culture on Elftown and everywhere has become the slut culture among teenagers. I believe they do this because they're trying to hide how prudish they are. The poor kids shouldn't feel bad for being prudish when they're still getting used to their own bodies, though they should be progressively growing out of it. Well, now I'm going off topic.

Do you find it strange that the cyber kids here are the least of my reasons for leaving this place? It's because I tend to avoid things that make me feel disgusted, so I never made them much of a reason by visiting them all the time.

However, the elitists here are much harder to avoid. In all other senses, they are the cream of the internet crop. They're talented artists and writers, they know their computer history, they use excellent grammar, and they're just plain intelligent. I really like a lot of things about them, but watching them spit on the less intelligent makes me feel defiled just for being as smart as them. Do you really think that spitting on someone who has wronged you will stop him from doing it again? On the contrary, it will make him hate you and he'll get worse! If you want to stop them from being like this, teach them, or you're worse than them!

Just so you know, this is not a whiner page. That's why I named it Healing In Elftown instead of [A Warning@wiki] or [Elftown Scars@wiki]. Yes, my view of this town is healing, and I'm even taking action to heal it in ways that I haven't seen enough people doing so. So how have I done this?
•By creating this page.
•By logging back into Elfpack to do some reasearch, then editing the wiki page, Elfpack (versions 3-on), so that it lists a lot of Elfpack's coolest features. Hopefully this will make a lot of people want to join Elfpack and maybe some people who aren't helping Elftown will leave.
•By creating Wyvern's Writers United. I can't believe there hasn't been a page like this yet...
•By creating Why Good Grammar?.
•By creating Great Bios, as a response to I hate long bios.
•By telling off the elitists who made me dislike this place in the forums and on wikis.
See Take Elftown Back Members comment #281 on December 1, in which I showed there are no hard feelings by later leaving a positive comment on the other user's Elfwood gallery;
[334211] and following conversation, in which the opposing parties made themselves look stupid by claiming they actually believe that grammatical sociopaths are this dumb in real life and can't possibly learn. Come on guys, live up to your intelligence if you want the rest of us to.
•By setting an example, keeping my house's bio short, organised and pic free, and with good grammar. Also making a few statements directly in my house.
•By joining wikis created especially for improving Elftown, such as Take Elftown Back and others listed in my house.
•By starting a couple of fun wikis, Vintage Gamers, the Jazz Mini-Encyclopedia, and the Trochaic Poetry Contest, and linking them to Take Elftown Back.
•By submitting a new poem to the daily poem.
•By creating Stupid Pasted Things to help coordinate a movement against the stupid pasted things that are on too many people's bios.
•By becoming active in Black Listing For Cyberers. I guess I'm no longer so lily-livered about the fools that I can't do anything about it.
•By becoming active in The Motorcycle Story Petition which has evolved into something against stupid pasted things in general.

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2005-12-08 [iippo]: I'm going to take the liberty of directing people to this wiki when I feel they'd need to... well, see it. Hope you don't mind.

2005-12-11 [Kiddalee]: Ooo, thank you so much! This is very cool. I'm considering plugging it myself, but I'm not sure if that would seem a little... err... cocky.

2006-01-19 [Haruno Sakura]: Kiddalee, I've got to say, I agree completely with the opinions stated in the page above. It seems to me that too many people are taking advantage of the Internet's anomity and doing and saying things that most people would find offensive since they believe that there will be no rebuke. I think that was the reason Elfpack was made in the first place, but few seem to take the liberty of going to a less strict community. By the way, I got here via a link on iippo's page. Thank you. :)

2006-05-13 [Avoral]: Perhaps the intelligent could be a little nicer. But banning doesn't work on the people who give stupid a bad name.

2006-05-13 [Kiddalee]: Yes, it would be nice if they set a good example. I stopped using webspeak when someone asked me nicely. I think I was 10.

2006-06-19 [Stephen]: I'm going to post this in my house, hope you don't mind.

2006-06-20 [Kiddalee]: I'm alright with that.

2006-07-13 [Chrysilla]: I always wondered why everyone can get here. To me it seems this should really be a place for those who love fantasy. I was kinda disappointed when I saw descriptions like "I`m blonde, pretty and i have big boobs". I sent that girl a message asking wtf she was doing on elftown. Ok I know I could`ve been nicer but I`m not on Elftown to meet such people. Oh well... I`ll try to be more active and try to "take elftown back" :D

2006-07-14 [Avoral]: Oh, I've done some culling myself. Fantasy-devoid kids who get attracted because their friends are doing it... They have to go.

2006-07-14 [iippo]: Doesn't that fall under the number 1 reason written on the wiki, because people are elitist? o.O There's lots of space in ET for lots of different people as long as people don't break the rules, and if your interests are completely different, you probably won't end up having to communicate with them anyway...

2006-07-14 [Chrysilla]: Honey this is a comunity for all fantasy lovers. that doesn`t mean it`s an elite. And I`m here to meet other fantasy lovers... If I want to know other people I can use date sites (sorry if it sounded harsh, i`m not attacking now :) )

2006-07-15 [Avoral]: It's not elitism if it's primarily to deal with a problem. I've had to take ye sledgehammer to many an inflated high school varsity kid for harrowing and insulting "nerdy" friends of mine.

2006-07-15 [Stephen]: Well, outcasting members from this site for not liking fantasy is a bit elitist. Elftown is an online community for everyone, that's why there is nothing to precvent or remove people like the "I am 15 and have big boobs" people. Yes, they are annoying, but the eaisest thing to do is ignore them. Of course, you could always get them interested in something fantasy-like as well. =oP

2006-07-15 [iippo]: If it was meant to be fantasy-lovers only community, there would be some kind of audition like "you have to write something that proves that you like fantasy" or something to that effect. Not everybody who joins knows that "ET should be fantasy lovers only" because it doesn't say so anywhere. It would be the same if you walked into a room without knowing that only people with blue underwear are allowed to enter that room, because it doesn't say so anywhere, and then get attacked because you're not wearing blue underwear. You are by all means allowed to think what you wish of ET, I just felt this was the wrong wiki to express it.

2006-07-15 [iippo]: Sides, being 15 and having big boobs might be someone's fantasy, if they are slow to develop and are insecure and uncomfortable in their own body in reality. Just as well as "omg I'm a vampire, really I am" is someone's fantasy.

2006-07-15 [Kiddalee]: I always thought of this as a place not just for fantasy lovers, but intelligent people in general. That means programmers, readers, and artsy-farts. Still, I don't go around wasting my cortisol on cyber kids. I'm here to meet cool people, not put people down.

2006-07-16 [Stephen]: I agree with both da [iippo] and [Kiddalee] - Elftown is a place for everyone. :)

2006-07-17 [Kiddalee]: Hmm. Well, I don't really like seeing the cyber kids here, I just don't waste my time insulting them. This isn't high school. I don't need to do that.

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