2008-04-22 [Linn Scarlett]: You know what I mean *smacks Silvie on the nogging* ;)
2008-04-22 [SilverFire]: Reminds me of Noggin the Nog. <3
2008-04-22 [Linn Scarlett]: *skullcrunches
2008-07-22 [Singing my own Song]: Whilst helping out our old RE teacher to move rooms, a friend and I sat looking for religious quotes to stick up around the walls. One really nice quote (I can’t remember who by) was something along the lines of --> “Religion is a candle with a multi-coloured shade. We all look through a different colour but the candle is still there.” It is a really nice idea that all religions are the same just seen through a different perspective. But I think it should just STAY and idea because there is no way you could convince everyone that it was a fact. Sorry that I’ve just given my random input lol but this rant just reminded my of the quote. (we really made a very good display xD)
2008-07-30 [Linn Scarlett]: If you could convince everyone of that, there wouldn't be so many different religions nowadays. But religions all do basically the same at their core: order the world, reassure the people, ease the pain of death
2009-01-31 [hanhepi]: at the risk of being a semi-fucktard here, i can kinda-sorta-al
hear me out-
there are schools of thought and intelligent theoligists who think that old testiment stories borrow from more ancient folklore. the garden story for example... theres a bit where they illude to an earlier woman than eve.. lillith, possibly adams first wife who was a bit of a bitch, and later became the reason we sing lullibies to babies (to scare her soul sucking ass away.) i wish i could refer you to speciffic web-sites or something, but i watched this show on the history channel that discussed it. there were other examples, but thats the one i can remember all the names for.
so, theoretically, if you go back far enough, the bible is just a serries of stories the judeo-christia
2009-01-31 [hanhepi]: yup, i'll more than likely go to hell for buying into it.
2009-01-31 [Delladreing]: Haha. No I do see what you mean, but that's only if you go back far enough and accept that it's a whole load of myths piled on top of each other. This flaunts the idea that every word in the Bible is the exclusive Christian truth.
2009-01-31 [hanhepi]: true. i have run into christians that believe god himself (not someone acting on His behalf, but Him personally) wrote the bible. (and in English 9 times out of 10.) i suppose i'm a shitload more... liberal if you will. i dont figgure god in all his infanate wisdom really gave/gives enough of a shit to write things down. maybe to inspire others to do so, but cretainly never set pen to paper or (stick to tablet for that matter, being as the Bic corperation wasnt even imagined at the time of the origional texts). i dunno though. i'd likely be branded a heritic by 99% of "true" christians. you know, the ones who think of god once a week, when they go to their fashion show, um.. i mean church.
2009-01-31 [Delladreing]: It's the "liberal" minded folks who allow the combination of the two, but when all is said and done, as a Christian your religious job description as it were reads "One God" and thus a denial that anyone other than Jesus and Prophets have "magical powers."
2009-01-31 [hanhepi]: as a whole, i dont buy into the bible. i like the moral to most of the stories, and i find them interesting, but i'm no great christian. i've broken all the commandments just about, except the making of idols, and murder one (so far. been tempted to break the murder one... i think we all have). i only classify myself as a "christian" because it comes the closest to what i am. (good ol' j.c. made me not have to offer actual sacrfices at the temple and what-not.) i'm not big into converting anyone to follow any religion (though i may try to sway them twards my way of thinking.) all in all , im lazy (in every aspect of my life, not just religiously), i dont like to argue, and i believe that the way people were "converted" back in the day was shitty. to each his own is sortta my motto. i have no real problem with any religion (or the absence of it). i'm a shitty christian all in all, if i was an employee, i'd have been fired long ago. even the jesus stories practice a lot of one-up-manship
2009-01-31 [hanhepi]: i'm just trying to explain me, not make excuses (though i do sound a lot like exactly what you describe here in a lot of ways.)
2009-01-31 [Delladreing]: Ah I'm not saying you're a good or bad Christian, I just...how can I put this. I don't like it when people deliberately mix and mash religions and then say something like "But it's just like this!" which to a Christian of the less liberal mindset...no it really isn't.
It works from a pagan or even a very liberal Christian viewpoint. But if you follow the Bible to The Word, then you cannot link the two. It's blasphemy.
2009-01-31 [hanhepi]: oh well yes, to those that follow the bible to the word, it would be blasphemous, or should be. (or heretical, i always get the terms confused.) the same way that breaking the commandments (any of them) should be really bad. even #3 (useing God Damn loosely, or saying "Jeeesus H. Christ" when you stub your toe.)
so, it does work -the linking of the two- from a pagan P.O.V.?
2009-01-31 [hanhepi]: and by the way, i just read that you are studding to become an english teacher. i was always scared of mine... please dont flunk me.i know i suck with capitalization and spelling, and creative writing, and grammer sometimes, but i'm a huge ass kisser... i mean um.. i try really hard to do it right unless i'm typing fast so i dont loose my train of thought...
2009-01-31 [Delladreing]: Aha, it's okay. It's not like I am actually grading you on the comments ;)
And I can see the point that it works, but ONLY from a certain pov. The person I was dealing with at the time claimed it resolved a lot of Christian dispute. When it really didn't. What it was throw Christian doctrine and theory out the window.
2009-02-01 [hanhepi]: the only thing that will resolve "christian dispute" would be if there were no christians. :/ true of all faiths as far as i know. i believe there are always factionsand sub-groups and whatnot. about the only thing all christian sects believe is that there was a jesus, and he did die for "our sins". i'm not swearing anything, but i bet theres a small cult or 3 that dont even believe that. its a problem with no solution really.
and then of course, if all the christian sects agree with each other 100%, theres all the other religions left to hate. sigh. to fix it all, you'd have to fix all people. litterally fix them: spay/neuter kind of "fix". THEN, in a generation or so, the problem would be solved. :D
2010-10-27 [BarleySinger]: Just curious as to which bible translation version your used to quote your 10 commandments from. There are so very many of them, and there are serious differences. ANYWAY...The ones I grew up with said "no other gods before me" not "besides me". This leaves a hole for some sorts of polytheism, just not true fetishism, where on object is imbued with power.
2010-10-31 [Delladreing]: Can't look it up right now as I'm in the US and living with a recovered catholic but I'm quite sure it was the King James Bible I used, seen as how that was the one I was raised on.
2010-11-01 [Azuri]: The King James version is what my grandpa uses to preach from and I'm pretty sure I do remember hearing Before Me while in church.
2010-11-01 [hanhepi]: i was also raised on the king james version where Exodus 20:3 reads "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
but in our Baptist household, the commandments started there, the first 2 passages were just buildup to that, so it could be just the difference in which churches are preaching what.
it was basically like this on the plaque in our house, and what we heard from the pulpit(verses shortened cause i'm lazy):
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image (etc)
3) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain
4) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy
5) Honour thy father and thy mother
6) Thou shalt not kill
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery
8) Thou shalt not steal
9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
10) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house,(etc)