2006-11-28 [Dark Side of the Moon]: I've just finished this and not sure if this would qualify or not. You may be looking for a white pegasus (?).
2006-11-28 [Hedda]: Whee! Bat-pegasuses! Cool! I've never seen those.
And yes, we want white ones with feather-wings too.
2006-11-28 [Zab]: Perhaps as a complement in the text..since it's not white..or big..>_>
I can exchange it if I suddenly make a better one, right?
2006-11-28 [Zab]: Thanks:)
2006-11-29 [xido]: Shouldn't [Shreya]'s felgasus go up here too, or is this for true pegasus only? These are wonderful. I only wish there was one or two more. That would make this the best pegasus wiki ever! ;)
2006-11-29 [Sunrose]: The intention is to get the best wiki about pegasus, so no felgasus :P
The contest isn't over yet, entries may still be submitted... :)
2006-11-29 [Hedda]: These pegasi are both very good examples of alternative pegasi that I think we should use, but neither is a good example of a typical pegasus.
2006-11-29 [Dark Side of the Moon]: I would certainly like to draw the typical pegasus! However my problem is getting to a scanner because I don't have one.
*mope and sigh*
2006-11-29 [Zab]: Is typical pegasi really white? Anyway..I might cange it if I draw a white one later, I did mean the brown one to just be in the text, if anything, anyway.
2006-11-29 [Dark Side of the Moon]: oooh, I wonder... *wonders* They might have. I'll have to check. I'd do it tonight, but the weather people are saying a nice little ice storm is heading our way.
2006-11-29 [Zab]: Oh..you said both the pegasi so I thought you meant mine too..>_> uhm.. Anyway..I really need to make a better one..XD I know I can..it just doesn't get good when I try..>_>
2006-11-29 [Hedda]: [Zab]: Of course I meant yours too. But you don't seem to get what I'm saying about it. I mean that the two pegasi here are great and we'll use them, but we still need a typical pegasus image for pegasus.
2006-11-29 [Zab]: ok..sorry.. I am working on a white one... x) I hope to have it done tonight..
*mumbles* Just the other wing left..and the body..and the head..and the legs..and mane..
2006-11-29 [Zab]: Thanks:D
I must admit it does look quite good. ^__^ (preview in my house, but I've made the body now..) if it just could be white and not silver! ><
2006-11-29 [Zab]: So..do I get one of those rare permissions to have two entries or should I remove one? :P
2006-11-30 [Hedda]: As I said: We'll use the other image.
The new one is great! The wings are in a little strange position, but I guess that's needed to show them.
2006-11-30 [Zab]: Thanks. ^__^ And ok.
Let's pretend it's just flapping them and preparing to jump out and fly..x)
2006-11-30 [moira hawthorne]: zab... why dont you combine the two into one... have the flying one in the sky ove the one on the cliff...not directly over head as it is now... but off center... and than mix the sky colours... that make a more interest complex complistion and image
2006-11-30 [Zab]: Because only a simple one was wanted here..not complex images..>_> besides, I only have the brown one as a jpg file, so I can't just transfer it...
(And it's two images..in case you missed that :)
2006-12-01 [Forever Equine]: May photomanips be used?
2006-12-01 [Zab]: I used an anglo-arabian as a referense..XD Thanks:P
I think photomanips are ok..but I'll leave that for others to answer. x)
2006-12-01 [Forever Equine]: Ah, I was just curious because of that nice hindquarter. XD
Alrighty, guess we'll see what's said.=)
2006-12-01 [Lady of Lore]: Zab and Ir your entries are so good i'm a bit intimidated to try....
2006-12-01 [Zab]: No try! :D We want more entries, our pegasi feels so lonely ;)
2006-12-01 [Lady of Lore]: Aww....well if they're lonely I'll give it a whirl...mine will more likely be basic graphite medium since I'm not too skilled with computer art programs...yet.
2006-12-01 [Zab]: That can be really good too :)
2006-12-01 [Forever Equine]: Graphite definately has its appeal.=)
2006-12-01 [Lady of Lore]: ^^ Thanks for the support...I'll be sure to enter then
2006-12-01 [Zab]: Good! :P
2006-12-01 [Forever Equine]: Yay! I will i if I can get my hands to draw right. XD
2006-12-01 [Lady of Lore]: Do so! ^_^
2006-12-02 [Forever Equine]: Ok, thank you much.=) How many entries are we allowed? I see that [Zab] has 2. I have a piece currently in the works.=) Would it be prudent for me to place the sketch as a place holder?
2006-12-02 [Zab]: Only one is allowed (unless there is a good reason for more), that's why I was so uncertain if my brown should be there, even if it's supposed to be in the text and not as the main image..:P
2006-12-02 [Hedda]: I'll sort the images out in the end, so just submit what-ever you have
2006-12-02 [Forever Equine]: Ok, thanks guys!=D
2006-12-02 [Zab]: Promising, Elvandia!
2006-12-02 [Forever Equine]: :D Thanks! I still like your's alot more though. XD Love those wings! I prolly should have used a ref.
2006-12-02 [Zab]: ref's make it so much better..XD
2006-12-02 [Forever Equine]: Yup, but I'm incredibely lazy, lol!
2006-12-02 [Forever Equine]: Thankies!=D
I have it almost done and then I'll add a bg to it.=)
2006-12-03 [Zab]: Nice! ^___^
2006-12-03 [Forever Equine]: Thanks!=D
2006-12-03 [Forever Equine]: Sorry, I just wanted to get the largest view possible.:S Anytimes I upload it at my house shrinks it too 500 pix. How do you get it to full size?
As with the watermark, I can take it off but I feel naked if I do.XD I've had my work stolen 3 times now so I'm paranoid.>.> <.<
2006-12-03 [Forever Equine]: Duh, I really need to learn to read.XD
Anywho, I have a different version that I would like to upload at it's larger size.=)
2006-12-03 [Forever Equine]: Nvm, I never noticed that I had the privilage. God I'm an idiot! XD
2006-12-03 [Zab]: *lmao* Good, because otherwise I would have had to tell you about it..x)
2006-12-03 [Hedda]: "stolen"? You mean "copied". Not the same thing.
Now you're having quite good proof that it's yours and no one can ever steal that away from you.
2006-12-03 [Forever Equine]: Well, actually, 28 pieces were stolen, I had the chick even take my name, well my initials TMM! She had all my older pieces that I had in Elfwood when I first started. She even claimed to take requests and have pieces in the "works" which were pieces I already had done. I keep all my sketchs and originals, unless they are a commission, and keep them on file. DA took forever in having her dealt with but after 2 months it was taken care of. And the the second time it was the same instance but with only one piece. I would consider the second time more of an copying offense since they didn't remove my watermark but they did change the character which belonged to a friend of mine. The 3rd was by an annoying person who thought it would be cute to alter my art and claim it as theirs.
2006-12-04 [Dark Side of the Moon]: Which is exactly why Elfwood needs to remove the right click and save option from their site. It can be done. Nothing infuriates me more than stealing someone else's work and saying they drew it. No talent bastards. Pardon my language. By the way [Forever Equine] I love your drawing!
2006-12-04 [Hedda]: [Dark Side of the Moon]: And then people will still copy the image, but it's a little more work for them. Annoying things like that destroys for the normal user and if you really want your art seen by none, then keep it off the Internet.
If you on the other hand want to be famous and admired then you should be grateful that people share your art. But if you want a pay-up-or-you'
But of course we should spank people who claim that they made something they didn't make. For that Elftown is very helpful because it's almost impossible to to find any art that no one here recognize and know the source of.
2006-12-04 [Dark Side of the Moon]: You're right [Hedda], I do agree. I have very little tech experience when it comes to computers and don't always realise that folks will still get an image off of there some other way. *sigh* There's no getting rid of thieves I suppose.
2006-12-04 [Forever Equine]: Thanks [Dark Side of the Moon]!=D I wouldn't mind someone using or posting my work as long as they give credit where it's due but to take my name AND my work is just too much.:S I want others to see my work and make a name for myself.
And yes, that is very true of Elftown because last Christmas someone brought it to my attention that someone posted my entry to the contest, in their house, saying it was theirs. That's was taken care of quite quickly. My reguards to the guards.
2006-12-04 [Dark Side of the Moon]: God bless the guards!
2006-12-05 [Forever Equine]: Yeah, Hedda said he'd weed through them so post what you will but with some descrection.
2006-12-10 [Artsieladie]: Thanks! I had the wings bigger & I shrunk them, b/c I thought the pegasus looked a bit off balance, but I guess a Pegasus would need sizable wings considering the size & weight of a horse! lol I do everything in a psd, so I can add the larger wings. I'll go add the larger wings.
2006-12-10 [Forever Equine]: Nooo you can't enter it's TOO GOOD!XD Lol, I'm just teasing! It's gorgeous! I agree with the wings but I can't wait to see it with larger ones!=D
2006-12-10 [lunarsun]: :D hey everyone! I'm thinking about uploading my own,. hehe only problem is I dont know how. But then again I dont really know how to upload but Im waiting for [Hedda] to get back to me. I really like all of your guys pegasus..es? . <URL:http:/
2006-12-10 [Hedda]: They can be black... But they are generally considered to be white.
2006-12-10 [Artsieladie]: Do you think the wings are big enough now? O..O This is the black one: <URL:stuff/
2006-12-10 [Forever Equine]: I like both of them but the black catches my eye a bit more.=) He's unique!
2006-12-10 [Artsieladie]: Actually, I started off with a rich, mahogany bay. Then I made the black & from the black, I made the gray (white) one. O..O I love Arabians & the colors: black, chestnut, & bay, though, so I think I might be a bit partial to the black.
2006-12-10 [lunarsun]: does the pegasus have to be white? cuz i one i did is brown...
2006-12-10 [Forever Equine]: Traditional pegasus are seen as white but I personally think they could be any color seeing as how they're ficitional but to each their own I suppose.=) I love uniqueness!=D
2006-12-10 [Artsieladie]: Mmm..me.too! :D
2006-12-10 [lunarsun]: my next question...doe
2006-12-10 [Artsieladie]: [All mediums are "to" be accepted, but no kids dressed as dragons or annoying GIF-animations! Make it a serious and informative image!]
2006-12-11 [lunarsun]: hehe thx Artsie
2006-12-11 [Artsieladie]: You're welcome.
2006-12-11 [xido]: "[lunarsun]: I really like all of your guys pegasus..es?"
Plural for Pegasus = Pegasi (peg-ah-see/sai)
Yay, I love the ittle bittle pegasus gifs that [Artsieladie] commented with! Fun!
2006-12-11 [moira hawthorne]: actually Pegasus was the personal name of one flying horse! from greek myth... like here is my horse Fred. there is no plural for it... and its not the race name for the fantasy creature of flying horses.
2006-12-11 [Forever Equine]: We all know who Pegasus was, it's in the description at ECM Pegasus or at least it was. For those who don't know, Pegasus was the offspring of the Greek God Posiedon and the gorgon, Medusa. But how often do you find different interpretation
2006-12-11 [lunarsun]: looks like i wont get a image editing program until after xmas so I cant make a new picture or fix him up. ah well. hes pretty good as he is and Im proud of him -*enters him anyway =3 *-
2006-12-11 [Forever Equine]: Aww, that sucks!
One thing you might want to add though, is tell where you got the images and to state that they have given you permission to post in this contest.=) Unless they're your's of course.=) I was thinking of doing a photomanip myself.=D
2006-12-11 [Artsieladie]: [lunarsun], have you heard of Gimp? It's free to download. [Zab] knows the program very well. If you go to her tutorials, there you will find how to download & info on how to use the program.
2006-12-11 [Forever Equine]: Yeah...I agree, you did do a lovely job on them!=D
2006-12-12 [Forever Equine]: Coolness!=D
2006-12-12 [Artsieladie]: He he I never get carried away or anything, do I?
2006-12-12 [Forever Equine]: Not at all! It's great!=D
2006-12-12 [Fizban]: bunches of beautiful horse-things :)
2006-12-12 [Artsieladie]: Horse-things? *grins*
2006-12-12 [Forever Equine]: Lol!
2006-12-12 [Artsieladie]: Hmmm....a bit puzzled....whe
2006-12-12 [lunarsun]: Im with you you would think that there would be lots more entries
2006-12-12 [Dark Side of the Moon]: I can't finger it either. You'd think that with such a popular fantasy figure that folks would have been knocking down the proverbial wiki doors trying to get something uploaded here.
2006-12-12 [Sunrose]: Maybe it needs a bit more advertising :)
2006-12-12 [lunarsun]: perhaps. i almost missed it, but i was just browsing the main page and the word "pegasus" caught my eye
2006-12-12 [Artsieladie]: Advertising never hurts. I have it advertised in my mood, my house and in my diary. :D
2006-12-13 [Ciorstag]: Ah! In my case it more the holiday season- just need time to color mine! Just posted the WIP sketch at my house. I do have a non-iconic image in my wiki that you are welcome to use as a text image if you'd like! My Menagerie
2006-12-13 [Lady of Lore]: ^^ working on a suitable entry....
2006-12-14 [Nadie importante]: when was the deadline again?
2006-12-14 [Dark Side of the Moon]: I believe the deadline is December 15th, midnight ET time. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
2006-12-14 [Nadie importante]: ok so that means tomorrow evening i could still post somethign up here? or couldnt they wait until theres a few more entries8-)?
2006-12-15 [Artsieladie]: Changed my entry, b/c of "statement with it".
2006-12-15 [Zab]: I think it should be all white... But it's a nice picturee:P
2006-12-15 [Nadie importante]: well i hope he does i mean tehres few entries isnt there?:P even though they are all beautiful!
2006-12-15 [Ciorstag]: Aw, not going to make it but definitely will try harder next time- and will eventually finish the one I started! Love all the art that was entered- gonna be hard to choose one!
2006-12-15 [Artsieladie]: From some of my books. See: <diary:885974> One link on the net stated: " Pegasus is a flying horse from Greek and Roman mythology. He is generally pictured as white, sometimes with golden wings." ---> http://www.eau
I went to many sites, & you're lucky if you can get a description of more than "a winged horse"! I think everyone knows this much. Boy, whoever said everything can be found on the net? It does make sense that Pegasus would have golden mane, wings & hooves, b/c Medusa was a tall Gorgon with "golden hair & golden wings". Poseidon, the father, is also known as the god of horses or horse god, besides the god of the sea.
2006-12-15 [Artsieladie]: Here's an e.g. from one book, quote: "Swiftly he (Perseus) stooped, scooped up the head by its limp dead snakes, stuffed it in his pouch, and stood amazed for where her blood had fallen, two creatures sprang up, a warrior holding a golden sword and a beautiful white horse with golden mane and golden hooves and astounding golden wings. They were Chrysaor and Pegasus, children of Poseidon whom Medusa had been unable to bear while she lived as a monster, and who had grown full size in her womb."
2006-12-15 [Nadie importante]: Hedda do you think it would eb possibel to postpone the deadlinea few days?
2006-12-15 [Artsieladie]: It would give me a chance to figure out which image I'd like to go with, the all white one or the white & gold. I can't make up my mind & it's not recommended to post 2, I've read. Dilemma! I'd really like to have my entry true to form & there seems to be so many variations with Greek Mythology, yet very little specifics for reference when it comes to Pegasus. :PP
2006-12-15 [moira hawthorne]: I think the gold is best... the greeks really liked gold... if they were gonna describe or decortate something to be the most beautiful.. it would be golden!
2006-12-15 [Artsieladie]: I do like the gold. It gives Pegasus an exquisite look! :))
2006-12-17 [lunarsun]: eerrr....the deadline is up right? no word on it being extended or anything
2006-12-17 [Nadie importante]: True but noone says the contest is over either so...
2006-12-17 [lunarsun]: lol this is true
2006-12-28 [lunarsun]: merry christmas everyone
2006-12-28 [Artsieladie]: Merry "Christmas", "Jul", "Yule", "Ad'ha", "Kwanzaa", "Hanukkah" & every other celebration at this time of the year!
2006-12-28 [lunarsun]: lol i know im alittle late, but its better to be late then never! hehehe
2006-12-29 [xido]: "lunarsun: eerrr....the deadline is up right? no word on it being extended or anything"
"Baty: True but noone says the contest is over either so..."
The contest is not quite over. Hedda is having a few issues being resolved, and he and I are the only ones on this project that I know of. I suppose I could make a poll for it to begin, in case it would help.... *starts lurking in his poll section*
2006-12-29 [Ciorstag]: Yay, finally got a good photo and figured out how to load it!
2006-12-29 [Forever Equine]: Wonderfully done!
2006-12-29 [Ciorstag]: Thank you! I'm glad I joined Elftown- contests like this one will really help me get back into my art!
2006-12-29 [Zab]: Great picture! :D
2006-12-29 [lunarsun]: wow! thats excellent!
2006-12-29 [Ciorstag]: Thank you! It's actually colored pencil on black matboard (my favorite!) Feels good to get back to it.
2006-12-30 [xido]: Wow, I agree. ;) I will add it to the poll I have created and am readying for Hedda's cue. :D I think he is keeping it open until after the first of the year some time...
2006-12-30 [Ciorstag]: Actually I do! This is the first contest I've entered so I'm stil learning how this works- since the master file for the picture is bigger what do I need to do? (I need your permission to load it but then what do I need to do?) It's the time of year where my brain is fried so any help is appreciated!
2006-12-30 [PredatorX]: I was going to leave this to higher authority, but if I'm stll here...
Since you're new, you probably don't have wiki privs, those allow you to upload an image to a wiki. Ask [Sunrose] or [Charybdis](or [Hedda], I guess) for those.
For more details, you could read Help... some valuable information there.
Best of luck to you and join more competitions, I like your entry.
Great art, everyone! Love the winged horse, what do you call it? Just kiddin :p
2006-12-30 [Zab]: [PredatorX]:Who do you talk to? Is it [Ciorstag]?
All who has put up images here have wiki privs. :)
Hm..but of course they might be added just now recently.
Are you coing to enter Predator? :P
2006-12-30 [PredatorX]: Yes, I was talking to her. Because, from what I can tell, the her image is the one she has uploaded as a "drawing" in her house.
As for me entering, all I can say is... bahahahaha!
No, seriously, I'm not even thinking about entering this one. For one thing, I've never even drawn a horse before... so there.
2006-12-30 [Zab]: Well, she has wikiprivs.:) Might have gotten them after she uploaded the picture or whatnot, I don't know any more than that.
Aw.. one time has to be the first..x) (ansd we all know it's the wings that is the hard thing to draw..)
2006-12-30 [PredatorX]: Yeah, I've drawn wings before... they never turn out the way I want to. (see now why I'm not entering? :p) Thanks, though.
I'll just be glad to see other people's entries. I've always been fascinated by Pegasus (and all other fantasy creatures for that matter)
2006-12-30 [Zab]: Fair enough:P
2006-12-30 [PredatorX]: Ah, so that's what that button's about... cool.
2006-12-31 [Ciorstag]: Thanks for all the help! I'm still learning where everything it and this is good practice. I uploaded the big file I was working from now (if it's too big let me know!)
2006-12-31 [PredatorX]: If you have any more questions regarding Elftown, I'll be glad to lend a hand... I'm very available this time of year.
2006-12-31 [Ciorstag]: Thank you! I'm hoping to do some serious exploring now that the holidays are over and see what's what.
2006-12-31 [Artsieladie]: Well, there's certainly a lot to explore, a little something for everyone's liking! *grins*
2007-01-09 [Zab]: >< My small image shouldn't be in the contest..it was just placed here to be saved somewhere if it should be used someplace in the text.. not as the main picture..
2007-01-09 [Zab]: *sighs and blames*
2007-01-09 [Hedda]: You can blame yourself a little for not writing it close to the image. It's not like I'll remember what you have written some months earlier.
2007-01-10 [Zab]: I didn't even want to keep the pic on this wiki! XD But you seemed to keep misunderstandi
2007-01-10 [Zab]: It's the small, brown one; it's not the normal type (they are white) but since it might be useful to inline in the text instead of on top of the page or whatever, I shouldn't remove it:P Now I have two pictures in the poll which means that some people who migt have voted for my other one now are voting for the brown one, and thus my 'real' entry won't get that many votes :P
2007-01-10 [Dark Side of the Moon]: hmmmm... I see your point.
2007-01-10 [lunarsun]: im starting to think i shudnt have entered
to late now
2007-01-10 [Crimson]: :/ I'm not really liking how small the wings are on most of them...too bad I couldn't get mine done in time with all the havoc here.
2008-03-20 [Artsieladie]: Hmm...perhaps this page should be opened to accept more images of Pegasus? :P
2008-03-21 [Artsieladie]: Ok. If someone had an image to submit to/for Pegasus, where exactly would they put it, to find out if it was good enough for the Pegasus project? Erm...maybe place a link to it on the Pegasus page itself in the comments? :P
2008-03-22 [SilverFire]: Whatever we decide, we should make a note about it to post on all closed ECM sessions, so people don't just walk away with their brilliant additions. :P
2008-03-23 [Artsieladie]: For many that understand how things work, this wouldn't be a problem, b/c they could just place the link in their comment on whichever page applicable. But as is so often the case, many need something more specific, more absolution. If there is not a place designated, they won't know what to do with it. Well, now there is. :P
2008-03-23 [Hedda]: Yes, adding information about where people could submit is always good. People tend to feel so helpless and don't realize that they can make a difference.
2008-03-23 [Artsieladie]: *nods*
2009-02-22 [Kuruni]: awwww man...i missed this one! i love making pegasus! congrats to the winner!
2009-02-23 [Artsieladie]: Hmm.... since this was the first creature session and the Elftown Creature Marathon wasn't all that well known at the time this contest ran, I would like to see another Pegasus Art competition. Any objections?
2009-02-23 [SilverFire]: There are that many other creatures to get through, seems a bit of a waste to hold one that's already been done - especially when people can still submit their art and update the actual Pegasus page with it.
2009-02-23 [Artsieladie]: I see no reason why another can't be run. It doesn't mean we have to stop having sessions with the other creatures, just because we choose to run another Pegasus Art! Hardly wasteful! Submitting to a contest is much different than simply submitting work to a page where people feel they have little or no chance at getting recognition for it. Even if people don't win in a competition, the fact that their art is in a contest, gives their art more exposure than if it weren't.
2009-02-23 [Artsieladie]: These other creatures certainly aren't going to get neglected and I didn't inquire to have this re-run immediately. I was simply inquiring for it "in the future".