2007-02-26 [Artsieladie]: Hmmm...I must have misunderstood when you said yes to ECM Pegasus Image & making the vampire section like it. I figured following [Hedda]'s method would be the best, b/c he knows a lot about titling pages & such to bring them up more readily on the net to make this "the best Vampire-page on the entire Internet". Might as well have that ECM Vampire Image page scrapped then. There's no point in keeping a page that could cause confusion. :P
2007-02-28 [Hedda]: I updated it now and made it into a link here.
"vampire art" is much better than "vampire image", I think. In all respects.
2007-03-01 [Artsieladie]: Thanks. Sorry if I made anyone extra work. I'm glad to see entries already, though.
2007-03-01 [Lady Evangeline]: Hedda, I have an image I would like to submit to this contest...I guess I'm asking for permission?
2007-03-01 [xido]: Huzzah, entries! ;)
2007-03-01 [Lady Evangeline]: okey dokey. it'll be up later today then... :)
2007-03-01 [nathie]: no prob. some wikis they go from up to down, some others are turned around. :) confusing. ^_^
2007-03-01 [Artsieladie]: Eh, no worries. Nice pic'! :D
2007-03-01 [nathie]: maybe i´ll replace itif i have time to draw a new one. the muse hit me, but forgot to send me some extra hours. :)
2007-03-01 [Lady Evangeline]: Well there you have it. :)
2007-03-02 [Artsieladie]: [Vampires Anonymous], the statement above, reads: [Please note that the image has to be uploaded to Elftown.] So, please upload your lovely pic' to Elftown. I also moved your pic' to the proper placement on the page & revised the directions to clear this confusion up.
2007-03-02 [Lady Evangeline]: I'm sorry I don't actually know how to do that...
2007-03-02 [Zardra]: would this be okay to post or is it too raw? ^^;
2007-03-02 [nathie]: mmmmh. i like it, zardra! :)
2007-03-02 [Artsieladie]: On wiki pages, do you see a "browse" & an "upload new image" box or button at the bottom? If not, you don't have the priv for uploading to wiki pages. If you do see the buttons as I've described, then upload your image using a wiki page or this wiki page. If your image is the same as what you have posted here, it isn't that big. If you don't have the priv to do this, on just about all of the official Elftown contests I read: "Ask [Sunrose] or [Charybdis] for wiki-privs if you don't have them already." So, I would suggest you ask [Sunrose] or [Charybdis] for wiki-privs for uploading to wiki pages. Your other option is to upload your image using "Upload a new photo" or "Upload a new drawing" that you have available for you in your house (presentation). When you use this option, however, your image should be no more than 500 pixels wide by 1000 pixels high. Hope this helps! :)
2007-03-02 [Zardra]: excellent, it's up now =D (and thanks Nathie ^_^)
2007-03-02 [Vampires Anonymous]: Opps...I think my image is too big...HELP!!!
2007-03-02 [Sunrose]: You can thumbnail images, I fixed that :)
Also, the name for the file doesn't have to be your username ;)
2007-03-02 [Vampires Anonymous]: yay, its small again. thank you
2007-03-02 [Sunrose]: No, I mean I wrote <img300:ur
2007-03-02 [Vampires Anonymous]: thanks for your help
2007-03-03 [Lady Evangeline]: yeah caught that. haven't had the time to change it yet. I'll take it off till i do.
2007-03-04 [xido]: deadline added. ;) We will need similar deadlines on the other pages, to make sure they are openly posted for entrants.
2007-03-04 [Artsieladie]: I posted the appropriate contest deadline on each of the other pages: photos (2007-11-15); text (2007-7-1) & poetry I put the same as for this page, the art (2007-6-15), except I put "Contest deadline". He he I'd almost bet that someone is going to confuse the deadlines!
2007-03-04 [Vampires Anonymous]: can we upload to vampire images?
2007-03-04 [Vampires Anonymous]: sorry, my bad. I meant, am I able to up load Two images?
2007-03-04 [Artsieladie]: Oh, according to rule # 3 on Elftown Creature Marathon, it says: [EACH MEMBER MAY SUBMIT ONE (1) ENTRY PER CREATURE.] ---> [Exceptions might be offered if there is a valid reason for it. But if you do submit more than one image, you will greatly lower your chance of winning, as the votes for your style will be spread out on two entries]. :)
2007-03-04 [Vampires Anonymous]: Thank you. I will keep that in mind.
2007-03-04 [Artsieladie]: You're welcome. :D
2007-03-04 [Jewl]: yes, the fangs are hard to see... but, they ARE there... and implied.
2007-03-04 [Vampires Anonymous]: I agree with Artsie. very clever
2007-03-05 [DarkJenni]: O.o this is nifty!
2007-03-05 [Jewl]: Lol, thank you...
2007-03-06 [Vampires Anonymous]: My vampires actually have teeth now ^_^ I may die happy.
2007-03-06 [Apus]: Does the image have to be made especially for the contest? Cos I've got a vampire image available already.
If not, I can always draw something new.
2007-03-06 [Sunrose]: Rule 2 on the main wiki 'Drawings can be either new or previously made, but they have to fit the creature exactly.' ;)
2007-03-06 [Apus]: Lol, no wonder I missed it "Quality Issue" rules tend to be stuff like "no drawings on lined paper" or "no stick figures" around here, so I'm used to skipping right to the theme section! =P
2007-03-08 [Apus]: No doubt, but have you seen his latest pic in his house? ololz
That's scary! =P
2007-03-09 [Black Raven]: Excuse me!How many entries each person allowed to submit?
2007-03-09 [nathie]: one entry is allowed. :)
2007-03-09 [Black Raven]: thanx.
2007-03-10 [DarkJenni]: lol
2007-03-11 [Rat Hacker]: *feels bad* Compared to all these mine sucks. Hope it doesn't breatk anything rule wise. Cuase I did use a reference well sort of for the smile teeth thing.
2007-03-16 [Lakayana]: why I dont really understand. Can somebody make it clearer to me please?
2007-03-16 [Eglagrodion]: and how can that be done?
2007-03-16 [Artsieladie]: Well, it's slightly large to upload in your house (limit = 500 pixels wide in house). Do you have the privs to upload your image to a wiki page? :)
2007-03-17 [Eglagrodion]: nope not really...:S
2007-03-19 [Chi]: haha s'ok. i dont have a back ground either
2007-03-20 [Eglagrodion]: ok is this upload better?
2007-03-20 [Artsieladie]: Much! Thank you. It's a good piece of art. :D
2007-03-20 [Eglagrodion]: well im not really happy about but if you say so :P
2007-03-20 [Artsieladie]: That's typical from an artist, b/c we are our own toughest critics. :P
2007-03-20 [xido]: This is true. Especially within those of us who are unafraid to slink along in the darkness with the shadows. The Undead are perceptively more in tune with their inner critic.
I know, I used to be one. ;)
2007-03-20 [DarkJenni]: O.o these are all really good.
2007-03-26 [prowlie]: yeah but she got rid of the copyrighted b/g so its okay ^w^
2007-03-26 [DarkJenni]: yeah but did she really draw the house?
2007-03-26 [Lakayana]: The whole painting apart from the background was handrawn and painted in microsoft paint. The new background was also made in microsoft paint. I just want the background to be a red sky.
2007-03-26 [Jewl]: but the moon and the castle are exact replicas, if not stolen, from Microsoft Office Clip Art...
2007-03-27 [SilverFire]: Not to sound rude, but usually when you accuse someone of art theft or the likes, you provide proof for your accusation - if you can provide the clips from Microsoft that you think she's copied or stolen, do so.
2007-03-27 [Sunrose]: In this case proof is not even really necessary, because pretty much all Guards have seen it being used by members quite a lot. As a few other Windows desktops.
But sure, I can show you the original:
No doubt Vista wallpapers will start to pop up too..
2007-03-27 [DarkJenni]: yup, agrees with Debby.
2007-03-28 [Jewl]: ok.. will do. Just lemme pop up PowerPoint...
2007-03-29 [DarkJenni]: don't forget the bats.
2007-03-29 [Sunrose]: I was suspicious of those, but don't know where they are from..
2007-03-29 [Rat Hacker]: Suspicous of what? If it doesn't refer to me then never mind.
2007-03-30 [SilverFire]: Me too - but I could't find them on my version of Word; since Jewl was so certain, I thought she might have had better luck finding them. :)
2007-03-30 [Jewl]: I know I've seen the moon, bats, and building before. Maybe the cloud, and the tree.
I'm sorry if I sound horrible, but it's true. I can't currently find them, but I'm looking.
2007-03-30 [Rat Hacker]: Yeah not to butt in or antything but I do beleive I've seen them to. But then again it's none of my bussiness. Sorry I butted in.
2007-03-31 [SilverFire]: :/ Uhm... we're talking about accusing someone of art theft here, it's kind of everyone's business. Just like you don't walk by in a street and see a shop robbery and think "eh, none of my business". If you can find the pictures, it'd be well, not great - but better than not knowing. :)
2007-03-31 [Jitter]: http://www.web
I looked for 'haunted clipart'
2007-03-31 [Artsieladie]: [Jitter], thank you very much! I knew I had seen the rest, the house, moon, bats & possibly the tree somewhere. I've been looking & looking, but I'm not very "net savvy". [Lakayana], if you want to use an image "AS A REFERENCE", this is all well & good, but you can't take a piece created by another from some other place, give it a tweak or two & then call it your own. :/
2007-03-31 [Jitter]: you're welcome artsie lady. Took me about 2 minutes after I decided to look ^^;
2007-03-31 [Artsieladie]: *laughs* Wow! 2 minutes! I spend little time going around on the net. I tried Halloween & then I narrowed it down to "haunted houses" & then I had to do something else. I was going to renew my search today, but you've saved me the task. Thanks again! :D
2007-03-31 [DarkJenni]: ^^
2007-03-31 [Lady Evangeline]: indeed.
2007-04-02 [xido]: Thank you greatly, m'lady. Nice work, all! ;)
2007-04-02 [Artsieladie]: :/ I really don't like to have to be or seem like a meanie, but when it comes to such, I have zero tolerance for it. :P
2007-04-02 [Lady Evangeline]: As you should. It's stealing plain and simple. Thanks for making the effort.
2007-04-02 [Artsieladie]: I thank everyone for their input & help. :D
2007-04-02 [DarkJenni]: welcome. ^^
2007-04-05 [xido]: Very neat entries. I enjoy the diversity. Some with vibrant color, and some more subtle. Intriguing.
Any other thoughts, ideas, or questions to the artists (or from them)? I'd like to see some professional, constructive critiquing discussion on the artwork, if we could.
2007-04-06 [OceanBorn]: I'm currently working on my work for this competition, it should be alot better than my photo :D
2007-04-06 [DarkJenni]: *huggies back* welcome. ^^
2007-04-06 [The all powerful Midori]: thank you! :D
2007-04-07 [xido]: Discussion topic #2:
Choose your favorite work. Don't tell which one it is.
Choose one of the following Art Elements or Principles, and tell us how the work you like best displays this asset:
Space, Line, Shape, Form, Value, Color, Texture, Balance, Symmetry, Space Division & Composition, Unity (Reptition, Variety, Rhythm), Emphasis & Focal Point, 3 Dimensions & Photo-realism
Tell us about this aspect of the work. Respond to others' posts if you can, as well.
2007-04-07 [The all powerful Midori]: how bout you give us an example?
2007-04-08 [xido]: Sure, that's a great idea.
Value - my favorite piece displays a very concentrated use of lights and darks in a very particular manner, and the dynamic nature of this contrast makes the light effects of the piece stand out really well. This contrast in value is not my favorite part of the piece, but it is the one part that stands out the most. I wonder what media it was made in.
How's that for help? ;)
2007-04-09 [The all powerful Midori]: lol ok, so now am I supposed to guess which piece it is or do I just post my comments on another one?
2007-04-12 [OceanBorn]: Glad that's done ^^
2007-04-14 [OceanBorn]: Yep ;) Although I'm going to have to re-post mine, I just realised a HUGE mistake in mine >_<
2007-04-14 [Vampire Akis]: What? Her breast?
2007-04-14 [Jewl]: No, I think it was the hair. One side is short, one side is long...
2007-04-14 [Vampire Akis]: It seems fine to me..
2007-04-14 [Jitter]: It's nonsymmetric but it doesn't look bad :3
2007-04-14 [Vampire Akis]: I like it. ^^
2007-04-14 [DarkJenni]: Thanks [Lady Evangeline] I just used photoshop for mine, and had made brushes for the smokyness. ^^, took me a long time, not really sure how long cause its an old pic I found in my sketchbook somewhere, and drew it up.Some prisma color markers as well.
2007-04-14 [Lady Evangeline]: lol! i have no patience for making my own brushes (digital or otherwise)...so i think i'll leave the smokies to you masters.
2007-04-15 [DarkJenni]: hehe. ^^
2007-04-15 [Artsieladie]: *nods to Lady Evangeline* I agree. It does look real.
2007-04-15 [OceanBorn]: I've updated it, But now that you mention it, is her breast wrong? :S
2007-04-16 [Lady Evangeline]: I'm with Ms. JuJu. As far as I can tell you're anatomically correct. The neck on mine on the other hand, could use a little work (which I unfortunately don't have time for now that school's started again...*cries
2007-04-16 [DarkJenni]: ^^ Its better then not doing anything.
2007-04-16 [Lady Evangeline]: that's true. this is actually the second competition, online or otherwise, that i've ever entered in. i'm still learning how to 'get involved' you know?
2007-04-16 [OceanBorn]: Likewise here Lady, It's the only competition I've entered, but on a side note you have quite a while to do any outstanding work ^^
2007-04-17 [Lady Evangeline]: well that's an impressive first ever entry. :)
yeah, true story. I'll have to see what these first few weeks of school are gonna be like first...
2007-04-17 [OceanBorn]: Thankyou ^^ Well, July isn't too near yet. Also, until you pointed it out I would never have really thought there was anything wrong with the neck, so it obviously looks fine :) But I hope you get the time to work on it and are happy with the results.
2007-04-17 [DarkJenni]: this is actually the first one that i found really interesting and wanted to comment in it towards other people's artwork, which are BOTH amazing, btw. But I'm really just into vampires, what can I say, biting is AWESOME. hehe.
2007-04-17 [OceanBorn]: I couldn't agree more. By the way, [DarkJenni] If you like reading and haven't already, you should check out Laurell K Hamilton's 'Anita Blake' series.. there are some FANTASTIC vampire characters in there... *swoons*
2007-04-18 [Lady Evangeline]: anita rocks my freaking world! I'm an edward fan to the max though. There's also aisling grey novels and suzie stackhouse (sp?) they're a bit more lighthearted and tounge in cheek sometimes though. ;)
2007-04-18 [OceanBorn]: Yes Anita blake and suki stackhouse are some of the best vampire novels I've read, theyre not romantic, they have a bit more comedy to them but they're really worth the read! Get a hold of 'em if you can Juju :D
2007-04-18 [Lady Evangeline]: never heard of amanda ashleey...what
2007-04-18 [DarkJenni]: premise???
2007-04-19 [Lady Evangeline]: nevermind. i'll just look it up. :)
2007-04-22 [Rondel]: Stunning, [Ocean Born]! A first contest entry? Wow!
2007-04-22 [Jitter]: took down my entry as I decided to enter photos instead.
2007-04-22 [Artsieladie]: But Jitters, you can enter both!
2007-04-22 [Jitter]: Oh do I? :O I saw somewhere mentioning that it is better not to enter two categories I think o_O;
Edit: There we go :>
2007-04-22 [SilverFire]: "
3. EACH MEMBER MAY SUBMIT ONE (1) ENTRY PER CREATURE.
Exceptions might be offered if there is a valid reason for it. But if you do submit more than one image, you will greatly lower your chance of winning, as the votes for your style will be spread out on two entries."
That what you saw?
2007-04-22 [Jitter]: yeah. Maybe it means 1 entry per category...? I'm slightly confused :3
2007-04-22 [SilverFire]: Yeah, I think the rules were copied directly from the Pegasus contest - which didn't have a photography category, and no one thought to change them. I'll mention it.
2007-04-22 [Artsieladie]: Jitters, "2 in the same category", b/c this ends June 15, but the photography category goes through & into November. In other words the photos & the art won't be put together. Even though they are part of the Vampire Competition as a whole, each is a contest on its own. Hope this clears it up. I talk in riddles sometimes. I'm happy to see you put your entry back up. :D
2007-04-22 [Jitter]: ok thanks both ^_^
2007-04-23 [Jewl]: ohh... man... I made a GREAT one... but it's too big to scan, and I don't have a digital camera or know anyone to borrow from.
2007-04-23 [SilverFire]: Can't you scan it in, and piece it together on the computer? :(
2007-04-23 [Jitter]: You can scan it in pieces and then send me to connect them :) I've done it several times, look: http://elftown
Although I must say I had some advantage points here :3
2007-04-23 [OceanBorn]: Wow, I just have to say that I think you're all winners no matter who is voted 'winner' Seriously, look at all of those images, they're amazing! It's a shame they can't all be chosen to show vampires they're all such fantastic jobs, well done to everybody :D
2007-04-23 [Artsieladie]: *nods in agreement to OceanBorn*
2007-04-23 [Jewl]: *laughs* As long as this contest goes on long enough to get it back! It's currently displayed in the local library's showroom... I should get it back by, oh, say, the end of may... XD
2007-04-23 [Jewl]: so i'll have time.
2007-04-27 [Rasperel]: I call my drawing sweet vamp, I just havent had the time to color her...
2007-04-27 [Artsieladie]: You still have time to color it. :D
2007-04-27 [Artsieladie]: For those of you who are wondering if you can enter in both the art & the photo categories of the ECM Vampire competition, I'm placing this here as I also did on ECM Vampire Photo:
From Elftown Creature Marathon page...
The Image Rules:</i>
3. EACH MEMBER MAY SUBMIT ONE (1) ENTRY PER CREATURE.
<i>Exceptions might be offered if there is a valid reason for it. But if you do submit more than one image, you will greatly lower your chance of winning, as the votes for your style will be spread out on two entries.
...It is assumed that this rule:
EACH MEMBER MAY SUBMIT ONE (1) ENTRY PER CREATURE.
...applies per category. Therefore, a photo in the ECM Vampire Art AND an art entry in here, ECM Vampire Photo is OK. :O
2007-05-26 [OceanBorn]: I've painted another vampire related photo and now I don't know whether to replace my entry. :/ choices!
2007-05-26 [Artsieladie]: I understand. I was in the same place with ECM Pegasus. :P
2007-05-28 [Lady Evangeline]: well, what does the other one look like?
2007-05-29 [OceanBorn]: http://elftown
Maybe it's too graphic, or too sktechy, I'm not sure..
2007-05-30 [Titanium Tiger]: *gos and grabs a pecial and paper* I want to enter!!^^
2007-05-31 [Lady Evangeline]: not to be a prude or anything, but i think you may be right. although it is a very acurate depiction of vampirism, this is a community for younger people as well and to use that as the "universal symbol of vampires" or whatever we're calling it, would be a little much i think. although it is beautiful, i think you have a better chance of winning with what you already have up. ...hope that helps.
2007-05-31 [OceanBorn]: I just wanted to make sure, thankyou for your input!
2007-06-01 [Jewl]: WOO! FINALLY was able to upload that painting of mine...
2007-06-01 [OceanBorn]: And it's absolutely fantastic! I wish I had the skills to paint without my computer, ah well. its fabulous anyway :)
2007-06-01 [Jewl]: *bows* I tried.
2007-06-01 [OceanBorn]: As is evident :)
2007-06-01 [Jewl]: When I finished, I actually thought it looked quite a bit like Catherine Zeta-Jones...
2007-06-01 [OceanBorn]: mm, I see what you mean, she's very lifelike anyway. I wish I could get the just with acryclics, I can sort of do block paint with them but they dry to quickly for my liking, hmf o.O
2007-06-02 [Artsieladie]: Nice work, [Jewl]! I started out using acrylics, but I, too, didn't like the fact that they dried so quickly, so I'd add retardant & add retardant. Finally, one day, I decided to try my hand with oils & I've been using oils ever since. I like to paint wet on wet, blending the colors on the canvas, so oils work really well with this style. :D
2007-06-02 [OceanBorn]: Yeah, I preffer the sue of oils too. Though I do think acrylics have the gift to look really amazing..I suppose some of us are better with them than others huh :P
2007-06-02 [Artsieladie]: I think we all eventually find the medium of which we prefer, but I find trying different avenues brings challenge & diversity as well. :)
2007-06-02 [Jewl]: Well, acrylics and watercolors are my only available mediums
2007-06-09 [xido]: I recently did a work in chalk pastels, which was a nice change for me.
2007-06-12 [Titanium Tiger]: yay mine finally in!!^^
2007-06-12 [Rasperel]: wwell if there is one thing I learned about coloring using PS is that it is hard!!!!This is the first time I ever tried it..Boy classes are in order.
2007-06-13 [Artsieladie]: This is why I layer individual parts & lock transparent pixels. It makes it much easier, especially if one is still using their mouse & not a wacum tab. 'Course, this gives you a chance to dup layers & make changes to see if you like the changes you've made better. It increases one's options/choice
2007-06-13 [Artsieladie]: Decided to number the entries to keep track of how many there are. 26! This is great! :D
2007-06-13 [prowlie]: uuuurrrrrggggg new entry is a bit big i think.... really does benefit from fullview XD
2007-06-16 [Sunrose]: The following entries have been removed due to not following the quality or theme requirements. Or both:
16. [Lakayana] - The dull one.
23. [Titanium Tiger]
This contest is about vampires, the entries have to clearly show this. Some entries were doubtful, but in the case of entry 15 shown above I felt the theme wasn't followed well enough.
The other two images were removed because we want to have the best image of a vampire. That means no bad image-editing and requires more effort than sketching the outlines..
2007-06-17 [Titanium Tiger]: ok Ill do better next time!! thanx!!^^
2007-06-18 [Lakayana]: alright! I think that will urge me to do better next time. Congrats to all those who made it.
2007-06-18 [prowlie]: will there be voteage on mainstreet for this? i kinda missed all the pegasus stuff ^^;
2007-06-18 [Lady Evangeline]: I'm really interested to see who wins....there'
2007-06-18 [Sunrose]: The Pegasus was decided on by the ECM crew, under lead of [Hedda]. He's the one who started this project and suppose he wanted to keep the voting within the ECM crew for that round.
He's been asked about the vampire-entrie
2007-06-19 [LeriSuccubus]: I cant wait!
2007-06-24 [Sunrose]: 6 entries have been moved to ecm vampire art alternative vamps: the effort is greatly appreciated, but these images aren't the typical vampires we are looking for in this contest :)
2007-06-24 [1 26 21 18 5]: Well I tried. ^_^
2007-08-18 [prowlie]: im guessing theres no set date for the verdict then^w^
2007-08-18 [Sunrose]: It will be announced soon :)
2007-09-14 [The Monochrome Rainbow]: so no public voting on this one?
2007-09-14 [Sunrose]: No, the winner has already been announced in the news :)
2007-09-15 [Black Raven]: Thank you!