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The Creature List



A List of Creatures and Beasties
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This page is owned and operated by [Angel Dreamer]
And assisted by her volunteering [#Creature Cronies] (linked to bottom)

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      This is a list of fantasy creatures, monsters, beasties and critters in alphabetical order. Each of them has been created by the minds of Elftown's artists, authors, or fans of popular fiction works (Please remember your APA Formatting, Fans!)

      Despite being open for any and all contributions to the Creature Pages, there is a system that we use here on the List:

   - Each creature gets its own page and description section.

   - Any passwords MUST BE deleted before changing ownership (see next rule), allowing for better management of the list.

   - All pages should have their ownership changed to [Angel Dreamer], the owner and moderator of the List. If you do not like this rule, TOUGH COOKIES, because we need to be able to make changes to the pages too!

   - MOST IMPORTANTLY: If you do add anything to one of the descriptions, kindly leave a message at the bottom of this page saying what you did.

   - If you want to add a creature that is not already here, you must follow the above rules OR message [Angel Dreamer] with the name of the creature, a description, and where the information came from.

      These creatures and beasties are most useful for those involved in story-writing, and in the Wiki Fantasy Roleplay, part of the WFR Creative Writing and RPG Guild.

      See also, The Classroom : A classroom on Creatures and Beasties


    [Angel Dreamer]'s Creature Cronies:
    Assistants: [Linn Scarlett], [Kim_Lundin]
    Banners by [SilverFire]
    Dividers & Graphics from Elftown Graphics and [Artsieladie]

    Creature Pages are created by Elftown Member Volunteers:
    Contributing members and participants of the Elftown Creature Marathon
    [xido] and the WFR Guild Members of the Wiki Fiction Roleplay
    AND Comments from helpers all over the Web.

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2004-08-15 [Angel Dreamer]: pole cat has been added under magical creatures

2004-09-04 [Angel Dreamer]: aeon actually has a description, for anyone that really cares :P

2004-09-05 [iippo]: gah! a creature called unari?!? that's like way too close resemblance to my real name *ish frek'd*

2004-09-15 [Cassave]: I added something I know about Ghouls

2004-09-15 [Angel Dreamer]: and the cl has been changed to show that :) much thanks, cass

2004-09-15 [Cassave]: Erh, I cleaned up some spelling errors the stuff I wrote about Ghouls.

2004-09-21 [Lokasenna]: Would "Gods" and "Goddesses" count as magical creatures?

2004-09-21 [Angel Dreamer]: well, we have diety up there, so gods and goddesses would go under that

2004-09-21 [iippo]: yeh

2004-09-28 [Angel Dreamer]: muse has been updated

2004-10-02 [Lokasenna]: Ok. I can't think of anything else thats not on there.

2004-10-24 [Angel Dreamer]: poltergeist, kelpie, thestral, and karken have all had descriptions added

2004-10-24 [Noexistantanymo]: Doesn't anyone have some info on different kinds of angels?

2004-10-24 [Angel Dreamer]: there's the angel description and archangel description up there. I'd offer my book, but it's at home and I am not >.<

2004-11-18 [Angel Dreamer]: Mulefas has been added :)

2004-12-29 [Cougar]: may i ask what is up the the little "*"? what does that mean?

2004-12-29 [Angel Dreamer]: the * means that the page is blank, unclaimed by myself or anyone making a page for the CL

2004-12-29 [iippo]: interesting

2004-12-29 [Cougar]: ahhhh thankie!

2005-01-26 [xido]: Adding Faunarian when you get a chance.

2005-01-26 [Angel Dreamer]: that seems to be more of a talent than a race, dontcha think?

2005-02-04 [xido]: The Faunar have their own all-Felynne tribe on the world of Nym, but they call themselves the Faunar, nonetheless... The original concept was something another player and I worked with a while back. The Faunar have many favored forms, so not many others would know what one's true form might be anyway.

2005-02-04 [Angel Dreamer]: faunarian added

2005-02-15 [xido]: thankies!!!  :) *smooches to my Angel*  ;P

2005-02-19 [Cougar]: Hey angel .. Could i Use some of the links on here. o.o i am making an rpg but i don't have the time nor the will to write up 50 different creature discriptions and only some of what is on here is what i want to allow in it.

2005-02-19 [Angel Dreamer]: sure! go right ahead :)

2005-02-19 [Angel Dreamer]: and if you happen to come up with some that arent on here (like the unicorn one), I'd love to have a discription

2005-02-19 [Cougar]: *laughs* oh dear... looks like i will have a lot of typing to do anyway. ^^ I am going to put it under unicorn the chick that used it hasn't been on in forever and the wiki isn't in use. I sent her a msg.

2005-03-07 [Angel Dreamer]: golem now has a description!

2005-03-15 [Angel Dreamer]: boggart and selkie now have descriptions, and banshee has been added to

2005-03-26 [ketsu]: Dementor has been added

2005-03-26 [iippo]: heh, Dementor

2005-03-29 [~The Dreamer Ilaes~]: Angel, are you looking also for angel sub races and that sort of thing. I.E Moldanic Deva, or Dynama (soul wardens) that sort of thing. Also quick glance Beholder could be added.

2005-03-29 [Angel Dreamer]: halfblood has been described, and Quetzalquatl has been claimed but not described

2005-03-29 [Angel Dreamer]: subraces would go on the page where the main race is - angelic subraces would go on the angel description page, for instance. and a good description of additional creatures should be sent to me

2005-04-04 [xido]: Instead of Titan Description, I have Titans It needs more, though. I only gave it a brief Jashnian version description. Any actual references to Titans would be a nice addition, but please don't delete any of my other information already posted, even if it conflicts. Everyone can add on, but please don't take away. Thanks, Angel. ;)

2005-04-04 [xido]: I also posted info on Axiomatic Creature, Baatezu, Fae, Changeling and Azer... since I added them, I might as well update them...... Thanks. By the way, I think I left you a message on the Anachreon page, too, Angel..... x.op

2005-04-12 [Cowardcat]: I left an entry on the "werecreatures" section.

2005-04-12 [iippo]: *comments to keep track of comments read* Sorry.

2005-04-12 [Angel Dreamer]: nice cat, except for one thing: please refrain from saying a previous entry is "wrong". these are all myths, so unless you know a real were-whatever...

2005-04-13 [Cowardcat]: Alright. Sorry about that.

2005-04-16 [xido]: :P  Your myth about the origin of the universe is WRONG! No, yours is!  No, yours! YOURS! *fights ensue* And so on goes history, repeating itself all over again and again......  :P lol, sorry, too funny.

2005-04-17 [Angel Dreamer]: they're all wrong, cause my myth is the bestest!! :P

2005-04-18 [dany174]: Cool wiki, the pages need pictures maybe you should hold contests or something like that

2005-04-19 [Angel Dreamer]: maybe, maybe not. it goes with the whole interpretation bit - for instance, which type of dragon would be chosen as the pic? elf? unicorn? I don't like the idea of limiting the reader's mental image of the creature in question.

2005-04-20 [Nicolai Antredias]: I have some information on True Dragons(the 5 chromatic and the 5 mettalic) do you want me to add it to the dragon description?

2005-04-20 [Angel Dreamer]: *runs off to look at the page* yeah, stick it under the wfr's stuff, sources, and all that. yay for more descriptions!

2005-04-22 [Nicolai Antredias]: ok I will begin soon the wiki page is True Dragons

2005-05-18 [Nicolai Antredias]: I am going to be busy for some time so the dragon wiki page wont be updated for some time

2005-05-18 [bluefan44]: I added something to the daemon comments, put it up if you feel it's good enough, as well as Quetzalquatl.

2005-06-27 [melcinitan]: illithid now has a discription

2005-07-02 [melcinitan]: And so does Succubi

2005-07-04 [melcinitan]: And i also added a discription to Hobgoblin

2005-07-04 [melcinitan]: and to Griffon

2005-07-04 [melcinitan]: and Hippogriff aswell...

2005-07-13 [xido]: Githyanki and Githzerai have WotC pics on them, and githyanki has a full description. Couatl has a basic description and pic, and can be added to the list. I will add more info later.

2005-07-13 [xido]: Could we please change the current (and insufficient) Angel Description page to Angels and Archons, and add Celestials and Guardinals.

2005-07-13 [xido]: Axiomatic Creature is the opposite of an Anarch, and has info on soon... Azer also updated....Baatezu too....I'm off to bed now.

2005-07-13 [xido]: Add Tanar'ri, and I will post more to that soon. Demon is empty, so I'll just stick to the ones I know.

2005-07-23 [Pansa]: I posted a basic description of Dea al Mon.

2005-08-01 [xido]: Avoral, Avariel Elf, Raptorian, Demon updated Tanar'ri clan soon to come.

2005-09-02 [xido]: Change Unicorn Description to Unicorn Race. Similarly, Titan Descr to Titan Race.

2005-09-02 [xido]: Add Minotaur Races.... please.

2005-09-02 [xido]: Remove Phantom... there are other more descriptive terms for a ghost, wraith, or similarly incorporeal creature, and someone used the already-posted Phantom page as a fan page for Phant of the Opera.... :)

2005-09-03 [Angel Dreamer]: about minotaur races...what's wrong with using the current minotaur page? Same for the fae stuff.

2005-09-03 [Angel Dreamer]: phantom has been deleted, since it is now home to phanart

2005-09-03 [Angel Dreamer]: basilisk has been updated

2005-09-12 [xido]: Nothing, technically, but I was making Jashnia-specific pages, in case someone was confused about the different races and cultures.... But I've updated the minotaur page, and will do more with minotaur races later, as well as ALL fae pages.  :)

2005-09-12 [Nicolai Antredias]: Ive updated some of the inof on True Dragons

2005-11-09 [Linn Scarlett]: *skips trough page to breath some life in it*

2005-11-09 [Linn Scarlett]: ok everytime i do something iam gonna stick it behind this message, because a thousand messages would be nasty X_X i specified what i did in the commentbox of the page btw (yes ive got a few hours to spare so i thought, lets do this...hope its ok >_<)  : Aboleth, Animated Object, Ankheg, Aranea, Archon, Azer  ---oh darn my lessons start again, well let me know what you think of it ok? ^_^ Ill be back later

2005-11-09 [Angel Dreamer]: Excellent! The only thing is that I'd like references on the information - even if it's just the name of a book/link to a website/whatever.

2005-11-09 [Linn Scarlett]: Monster Manual 1/2 and 3 ^_^ its fun helping this thing up

2005-11-13 [Linn Scarlett]: oh i fixed the lamia due to an 'argument' with some fellow rpgers about wether the thing is a snake or a kitty *chuckles* and could someone explain me the way the links are written? (the stars and cursive and such)

2005-11-14 [Angel Dreamer]: it's up at the top, under the banner somewheres...italic creatures are undescribed, *'ed ones aren't claimed by the c_l, so they may already have something else on them that's unrelated to the cl

2005-11-14 [Linn Scarlett]: ahhh ok

2005-11-14 [xido]: all Wizards of the Coast images (which I use readily) should be marked just like all other copyrighted work. Sufficient: "Image Title This is a 3.5 D&D rendition/personal creation by [username]/ and all copyrights/trademarks are due to them, see for more"

2005-11-29 [Kim_Lundin]: A description added to the Bandersnatch.

2005-12-01 [Kim_Lundin]: A short description added to the Bowtruckle.

2005-12-01 [Kim_Lundin]: AND a description added to the Doxy...

2005-12-01 [Kim_Lundin]: Flobberworm description added... there sure are quite a few creatures here lacking descriptions...

2006-01-05 [Angel Dreamer]: drow has had links added

2006-01-05 [Linn Scarlett]: yea *waves hand* guilty

2006-02-06 [xido]: HUGE FAVOR TO ASK EVERYONE: Please check out the Elftown Water Fountain Design Contest for me, and see if you have any ideas, comments, or questions about it, so that I can have a sort of FAQ about it before it is opened.... when I have three other people's approval for the layout and format of the contest, it will be opened soon after... Thank you, and please msg me with these comments, etc. I would prefer to have them in my mailbox instead of on this page, or even that one.... send your words straight to [xido]....... awesome, thank you immensely.

2006-02-21 [Linn Scarlett]: guys i found a really good page on some snuff folklore from the isles :D

2006-03-03 [xido]: sweet. Siren, Sylph with info and pics. New pics on Werecreature and Yuan-Ti....

2006-03-03 [Linn Scarlett]: yeah ^_^ see drow-page for more :P

2006-03-04 [xido]: yep, I did some there, too. ;P I didn't add anything, just put in the password, so I don't have to remember it again. :)

2006-03-04 [Linn Scarlett]: (i didnt up date anything, i just did this to make it remember the pass)

2006-03-04 [xido]: By the way, the fountain contest is open, and the deadline is June 24th, just in case anyone was thinking about it... ;)

2006-03-04 [Linn Scarlett]: Hmm if ive time X_X

2006-03-05 [Linn Scarlett]: I got off my lazy butt and updated the Drow and a page for their subrace the Shur, others will be done later X_X

2006-03-06 [ally]: Important comment, please read. All the wikis on this page have been handed over to [Angel Dreamer]. Message me with questions/complaints.

2006-03-06 [Linn Scarlett]: Ehhh *tries to think of something to ask* oh i know! Why?

2006-03-06 [iippo]: Xido asked it to be done.

2006-03-06 [Linn Scarlett]: Woke ^_^ I had to ask :P Did you not forget the Shur one? I made that one yesterday

2006-03-06 [ally]: I've been over everything on this page yes.

2006-03-06 [Linn Scarlett]: Okidoki ^_^ If I make other pages (especially concerning subraces) should I put angel in as the owner of it? or just note down here that I made it?

2006-03-06 [ally]: Well if you're ok with it I'd say from now on you hand over the ownership yourselves :P

2006-03-06 [Linn Scarlett]: how?

2006-03-06 [iippo]: If you are the owner of the page, you have a field in the edit-form saying "change owner": edit the name in and press "change owner" -button (not the edit-button like I always do) XD

2006-03-06 [Linn Scarlett]: ok

2006-03-14 [xido]: Awesome, Thank you, ally. ;) You just did the page itself, not the comments, right? I think there may still be some unknown as of yet, but we will find them... I have more coming too.... But we will get those ones taken care of... That should make it easier for Angel to edit these to be correct without hitting a thousand brick walls when people leave or password pages.

2006-03-14 [Ai~Tenshi]: This is really a great wiki.

2006-03-14 [xido]: ;)  ....You should always note if you made a race/type/concept with your addition, but if you add any info, you have the option of posting your name, along with the source of any content you utilized. All pages should be changed ownership to [Angel Dreamer] and any passwords deleted before changing it over. Thanks everyone! x.o)

2006-03-14 [Angel Dreamer]: change to the heading made ;) Three cheers for [xido], for being such a big push on the list, and Linn for volunteering to help!

2006-03-19 [xido]: *blushes*  Awwww, you've made me get that warm gooshy feeling in my tummy.... oh, wait, potty break!  ;P Thank you darling, you are wonderfully most welcome. I am just sorry I have to feel like a dictator when I ask things to be done... I feel like a jerk some days... But at least I don't feel non-productive when I'm on. And yes, thank you Linn, for helping. Two (or more) heads are better than one.  ;)

2006-03-19 [Kim_Lundin]: And that's why hydras has a special spot in my heart *laughs*.

2006-03-20 [Angel Dreamer]: urgal has now officially been added

2006-03-20 [Angel Dreamer]: Hydras: it's all fun and games until someone gets eaten ^_^ Xido, don't feel sorry too much :P If you hadn't added this mess to the WFR, it probably would have died a long time ago.

2006-04-03 [iippo]: I added information for roc/rukh and wiki ownership given to [Angel Dreamer] (also did some small editing on dementor)

2006-04-03 [Angel Dreamer]: more small edits done to dementor - mostly format

2006-04-09 [Paz]: How about the Manticore? ;P That was forgotten above, me thinks...

2006-04-10 [Angel Dreamer]: Dea al Mon fixed, since I just noticed somebody put a description. Paz, I'm sorry, but I've got nothing on Manticores. Could you send me a link with whatever it is? And does anybody know if that manticoros up there is considered the same as a manticore?

2006-04-11 [iippo]: Edited info into troll (although it could use some more work) and ownership given to [Angel Dreamer].

2006-04-11 [Angel Dreamer]: Tolkien trolls added to, and the link on ent was fixed

2006-04-11 [Linn Scarlett]: when I get of my tired ass I'll edit for the WoW trolls aswell ;)

2006-04-16 [xido]: Yay, hydras! Just when think it's all good and you're winning, they grow a couple more back!  :D  Thanks, Angel. I love this page. It's still one of my favorites... Manticore is definitely a necessity, and yeah, I'd have to think that the unused page for manticoros might have been someone's attempt at a scientific name, perhaps.... Manticore is the best spelling for us. ;) That one should have some cool pics.... there are a lot. Just have to look for them.  ;)

2006-04-16 [Linn Scarlett]: oh xido, i found a wizard-writting linky about the Undercommon that supports me blabing about that it's a mingle language and not drowic :p I'll scan it this afternoon ;) or if you have the book: War of the SPiderqueen 4: Extinction, page 115, at the bottom (pocket vision)

2006-04-16 [iippo]: Manticore is taken by someone else, maybe that's why someone made manticoros.

2006-04-16 [Linn Scarlett]: or ask them if you can have it :p

2006-04-26 [xido]: true... so we can just use Manticoros and make a note of it on the page... But it is still a cool creature.... We could use Manticore Beast... :P

2006-08-08 [xido]: Yay!!! Angel, you've been named 'Informative: 1' (by Hedda, I presume...) !!!!!!
See, people love your page! (I told you so)

2006-08-27 [Angel Dreamer]: Eh? o.o *apparently doesn't get on here nearly often enough*

2006-08-27 [xido]: Look at the very bottom of the page, in the right-hand sidebar... It says Informative: 1. Click on 'Informative'. You will see. Hedda did it for you.  ;)

2006-08-29 [Kim_Lundin]: Woot! Congratulations, Angel! You really are worth it.

2006-08-30 [Angel Dreamer]: *blushes* You and Xido and everyone who added to this get credit, too. *still feels special*

2006-09-04 [Angel Dreamer]: avatar description added. Thank you, [Remial]!

2006-11-18 [xido]: Everyone please see ECM Pegasus, the first creature in Elftown's Creature Contest Marathon, designed by Hedda himself to benefit the Creature List as a list of informative details on our favorite fantasy beasties!!!
Good luck to all artists, writers and researchers who work on this wonderful project! I will be there with you every step of the way. ;)

2006-12-05 [Angel Dreamer]: driden now has a description, thanks to [Lady of Lore]! The information can be found through a link on the drow page.

2006-12-11 [xido]: Drider, you mean, Angel? Driden was empty, and Driders are a product of Drow society, namely their outcasts, half-spider aberrations.

ECM Pegasus is going well for now, and more on the way!

2006-12-11 [Angel Dreamer]: drider >.> I can spell, honest!

2006-12-11 [xido]: Yeah, yeah, that's what they all say.... XP *hugs Angel*

Look Angel, I made a new page for referencing works and publications: APA Formatting
Tell me what you think.  ;)

2006-12-28 [Lady of Lore]: I'll try to compile some info for Hamadryad, nixie, and selkie. Would Scilla and Charybdis also be creatures that would go here? (referance the Oddesy as well as a bunch of other greek mythology)...just let me know. I don't mind it being a no. ^_^

2006-12-28 [Lady of Lore]: Would Avoral Celestial also fit here? (A type of angel where the wings are the arms...will get referance if they are accepted).

Any creature that I submit that it accepted I'll definatly write a bio for them and submit it, I just wanted to check that they were acceptable creatures first.

2006-12-29 [xido]: "Lady of Lore: I'll try to compile some info for Hamadryad, nixie, and selkie. Would Scilla and Charybdis also be creatures that would go here? (referance the Oddesy as well as a bunch of other greek mythology)"

If they are something that you can write about in these wiki pages, then yes, feel free. Please cite your sources on the pages if possible.

"Would Avoral Celestial also fit here?"

I made a page way back when for that : Celestials and Guardinals, I think....

2006-12-29 [H3_six]: Man, I wish I'd known this was here when I was making my Elfwood tour. This is a great wiki.

2006-12-29 [Lady of Lore]: Okie doke, will do. ^_^

2006-12-29 [Nicolai Antredias]: I may have a new monster to add here soon. Almost done working on it.

2006-12-30 [Linn Scarlett]: xido, I am afraid the only examples of drow script i could find were on the -authorized- mercendise blades of our dear drizzt. Yes yes Icingdeath and Twinkle. Presuming it's the blade names on the swords I managed to crack their code, but it still leaves me with a gaping alfabet sheet. here are the pics of the swords i google up (i saw them at the midwinterfair there at a booth)

so yeah, I got the letters and combos for the sword names (see how the two I's in icingdeath resemble with the I in twinkle, and how the E and e in both resemble aswell for example. But also how the th of icingdeath is related to the t of twinkle etc etc *insert gibberish concerning language script cracking techniques*)

2006-12-30 [xido]: Ok, great! I am copying that information to Undercommon Language and Script, which will feature a potential division into drow script and usage, if possible. Feel free to take creative liberties on this one, and I can make it up to you (if and) when the languages are considered by Wizards'.

2006-12-30 [xido]: Wraith is currently in use by a Stargate Atlantis group, and is not active for this type of info. 'Wraith' in this sort would relate to shadow-beings, incorporeal evil, or a billowing or mist-like undead spirits. I suggest either wraith description, undead wraith, or shadow wraith.

Outsider is created and ready for extraplanar beings (those entities from other dimensions, realities, realms, times, heavens, hells, elemental realms, and/or transitive realms).

2006-12-30 [xido]: Is serpent a truly fantasy/fiction creature? I would think sea serpent is, but a simple snake? o.O

2006-12-30 [iippo]: I think it qualifys, the sea serpent would be one subspecies of serpent (like mountain troll would be a subspecies of troll). There are all sorts of fantasy birds and mammals, why not fantasy snakes?

2006-12-30 [H3_six]: Serpents have lots of religious symbolism. Ie, in Genesis the devil takes on the form of a serpent.

2006-12-30 [Linn Scarlett]: Serpent could be defined as all oversized creatures such as seaserpents, flying ones, dragons etc (seeing as I seem to be the only person calling dragons serpentkin :/) Not to forget the chinese and japanese dragons, which are infact more serpentine than ours!

2006-12-30 [Linn Scarlett]: I'll take a go at the drow script xido. I've a week off anyway so I'll put some time in it today. And if you bring it under Wizards' noses, then so much the better: will prepare them for the havoc I made of FR in my story, which is situated a few hundred years after Lloth's silence in War of the Spider Queen.

2006-12-30 [iippo]: Dragons are usually sentient, aren't they? Would serpents be? 'Cause that could be the divide if you want to keep dragons apart from them. Then there's all sorts of wormy things that aren't exactly reptiles (white worms in ADOM that multiply like crazy), they might count for serpents?

2006-12-30 [Linn Scarlett]: Well, the Underdark (obviously) has a bunch of native wormlike creatures, but those are more worm than serpent, let alone wyrm. I think we should try and catch them all under Serpent, then divide them in say, Dragon, Worm, etc

2006-12-30 [Linn Scarlett]: zb: most serpents are sentient too

2006-12-31 [Linn Scarlett]: Zbb: I did some minor updating on the selkie page :) also, I did some nerfing on elves and will move on to add shades, since I just noticed they aren't here yet O.O

2007-01-01 [Linn Scarlett]: shade hath been calleth in existance

2007-01-01 [iippo]: :D Busy bee. *cheers Linn on* Gooooo-oooooo Linn! Go! Go! Go!

2007-01-01 [Linn Scarlett]: XD thanks

2007-01-01 [Linn Scarlett]: By lack of things to do I also gave the Incu and Sucu some extra stuff.

2007-01-09 [Hedda]: My page about search engine optimizing SEO HOWTO is useful for people making pages here, I think. I've had some discussions with [xido] about it, but I think I put down the most important stuff on SEO HOWTO. Generally these pages are very easy to make search engine friendly though. 

2007-01-09 [Linn Scarlett]: *nod nod* They also still need a bitt more uniformity too *prods xido* maybe we should come up with a general: name/enviroment/nature/history etc tab (like the character sheet) for the beasties to make them more uniform, perhaps?

2007-01-09 [Hedda]: Generally it's a bad place to start the work. Those wire frames suck badly if you can't write the information in all the places. But it's good to make the pages steal ideas from each other and have about the same format. But no "no history about this creature is written yet", and similar non-informative stuff.

We have Pegasus which makes a pretty useful rule-model to use for other pages. But the pages still have to be written. Then it's pretty easy to reformat them, if needed.

2007-01-09 [Linn Scarlett]: I ment it more like, maybe make three rough groups in which information is given, or in the general same line basics-specifics-extras-pictures or something *wonders if she's understandable*

2007-01-09 [Hedda]: I'm not against that, but I'm afraid that we'll get pages that only describe non-existing information. The format used should be the standard used on all wikis (as in: All wiki-systems, not only Elftown):


The main image, if any.

A short text describing it.

A more extensive text or links to sub-pages.

Links to related wiki-pages and external sites.

The sub-pages could of course use the same ideas on many different pages, but it's not needed. If it's pegasus history but dragons in the history don't really matter. The ones writing on the creature pages should probably adjust the normal standard to their specific creature, or to the information available.

2007-01-09 [Hedda]: Most importantly: There should be no sub-pages or sections without information!

2007-01-10 [xido]: Thank you, Hedda, and yes, that is VERY helpful. This page will soon be revamped in full, so we will have the most rockin beasties page on the web. ;)

I love the discussion on the serpent idea. I did not know that I would set off a discussion like that. It is nice. It reminds me of my school discussions, which makes me happy.

I have begun going to each page and both watching it, and making notes of what is and is not included on it, and all pages will be reformatted to take on the new title, The Creature List, as per recommendations and Angel's final call. I will make sure that all pages are formatted to observe this fact.

2007-01-10 [Linn Scarlett]: *cheers* tell me when I can do some work *leans on shovel*

2007-01-21 [Angel Dreamer]: samodiva added

2007-01-22 [xido]: To Linn: Feel free to add any content you wish to any current pages, and if you add a new page, please add it to both this page and The Creature List, as both will be utilized for full access to this List. Also, both links should be placed on the Creature Pages, for easy access.

2007-01-22 [xido]: Angel, my darling, could you change the page for Non-Elftowners to Comment on the page? I added keywords, and that should make it even more approachable by web viewers too. ;)

This page will continue to be the main page until the other one is completely renovated to be formatted (bullets based on content, keywords added, etc.) All Creature Pages will say:
'Back to Creature_List / The Creature List'

2007-01-22 [iippo]: So instead of making up your mind as to what page you want to use for real, you'll make the workers update two pages instead of one (not to mention having to add the new linking system to all the creatures wikis), make the watchers get update notices for the same thing twice and scatter the information and conversation in the comments across two pages? >.< I know it feels cool to keep the final wiki hidden until you've worked out the kinks and such, but in all honesty it's a bit... annoying. Why can't you just pick either wiki and close the other one? >.<

2007-01-22 [Angel Dreamer]: If all of the creatures are on The Creature List, I don't see why we shouldn't just update it and take the main list of creatures off of here. It's a self-confessed work in progress, and if Teh Internets don't like it they can deal.

2007-01-23 [xido]: To iippo: The creatures will only be listed in full on The Creature List when all is complete, and this page will be a welcome mat, with rules and info on it, plus the links to hop over to the main list page. This page will keep all the creatures on it until each page is analyzed for how much and what kind of content it has on it (bullets designating that info are on the other page).

I was told by Hedda that all pages like this should remain open, active, and appearing as complete as possible until they are finalized. That is why the list of creatures is still posted here until all pages have been looked at and bulleted, based on their content. I am doing it that way because this page is the one currently listed as the main page. And no, after all is finished, mods will only need to add creatures to The Creature List, while this page will be exclusively informational.

Please be patient with me. This is a long process. :/

2007-01-23 [Lady of Lore]: I have a question on the beasties and things we can have in the list, where can we get thier descriptions etc of them? I mean what are sources that are credited that we are allowed to use? From books such as The Shanarra series by Terry Brooks, Abhorsen by Garth Nix....etc... as well as the monsters included in Forgotten Realms books? Sorry if what I'm saying is a little confusing...there are many creatures i could help create a listing for but I want to be sure what creatures can fit and what ones don't...

Ex. In the Garth Nix books there are creatures called Stilkens...a shape changer of sorts who has the arms of a praying mantis, the face of a beautiful woman and the teeth of a very hungry scary bug... but the Stilken has only been used, as far as I know, in Garth Nix's books so may be his original idea...would the Stilken fit here or would it be a violation of a copyright or something.
[Lady of Lore]

2007-01-23 [xido]: PS to Angel - we do not have to add the * or italics to this page anymore. All of those (outdated) tags were removed on the other page, to be re-evaluated and bulleted. ;)

Sorry, to interrupt without answering, [Lady of Lore], but I am not sure the restrictions of definition that Angel considers a "fantasy" creature, so long as it is not from Star Wars....  But then, does that count as fantasy too, or simply Sci-Fi?

2007-01-23 [Angel Dreamer]: If it does not actually exist in the real world, then it belongs on this list. The 'normal' animals on here are included based solely on their magical/mythical properties (ie, salamanders supposedly causing/living in fires). Given that several of the creatures are from the works of a single author (like Rowling), then I see no reason the Stilken wouldn't fit right in. 

2007-01-23 [Lady of Lore]: Hmm....guess I'll wait and see what others say. Thanks xido.

2007-01-23 [xido]: You must have both commented at the same time. Lady, I think she answered you pretty fully there. ;)

2007-01-23 [Lady of Lore]: Lol, cool then. I'll gather up info on the Gath Nix creatures then ^_^

2007-02-02 [Lady of Lore]: Alrighty, Stilken's done and i sent the info and citation to Angel Dreamer ^^ More creatures to come.... Is it better to make a page ourselves or send the info in a message?

2007-02-03 [Angel Dreamer]: It's best to send it, really. The message I got was perfect :)

2007-02-04 [Lady of Lore]: Ok, great ^__^ I shall continue to follow that method then/

2008-09-03 [Artsieladie]: Is/are there any page(s) that list the creatures together that are closely related to one another (minus roleplaying aspects perhaps)? For examples:

For Elves/Elfves' Related, such as:
For Fae/Fae related, such as:
For Dragon/Dragon related, such as:

The reason why I ask is because I'm wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to run the ECM sessions more like, when we ran the Dragon, maybe also we could have run a session for each, Drake and Wyvern at the same time. I really would like to see more writers getting involved with these sessions, whether they would want to work as part of a group or singly on their own. With this idea as mentioned about the creature and related running at the same time, the writers could also work on the creature and creatures' related at the same time? Just a thought.... ^^ It just seems to make sense to me to work on the creatures and all those closely related at the same time. Like right now, we have the Elf session open. Well, now some are wondering about the drow elf. If we also ran the drow right now, this would cover another type of elf. Eh... I don't even know if what I'm saying is making any sense..... :PP

2008-09-04 [Calico Tiger]: Keebler elves! Errr... wait, no... I guess they aren't really enough to put as a sub-race section for elf XD

2008-09-04 [Linn Scarlett]: I think the main creatures (are supposed to) link to their subraces and deviates. I know Drow is interlinked with the main Elf page, Elves links to other types of elves too

2008-09-04 [Artsieladie]: Keebler elves... They make yummies magically delicious! hehe Yeah, I kinda' noticed this as I went through them, but there are many pages to go through to find out. When the drow elf was inquired about, it made me wonder what other possible types of elf there are. Maybe we could have even run elves and faeries simultaneously, because they are related to one another. There are also 'creatures with similarities' that could possibly run simultaneously as well? :P

2008-09-04 [Linn Scarlett]: True enough, but then again I'd have to vent my opinion on the List's index again ;)

2008-09-06 [Artsieladie]: Oh? Is it safe to ask what that opinion is? *stands back a little* lol

2008-09-06 [Linn Scarlett]: Oh just some stuff about abc-ed list being great, but that categorizing in larger groups (elflike creatures, taurics, ghosts, demons) all together on abc, aside from having an uber abc list, works much better :3

2008-09-06 [Artsieladie]: Hmm... I see. Similar to what I have in mind with my earlier comment, grouping together those related and/or those with similarities. *nods*

2008-09-06 [Linn Scarlett]: And use that for a main index, easier to see, especially if you're new to most fantasy and just want to read some stuff. An ABC total index is only convenient if you are specifically looking for something, in my opinion

2008-09-06 [Linn Scarlett]: Ps go check the centaur :3 I was bored

2008-09-13 [Artsieladie]: Like me! .... learning about all of these fantasy creatures ...and enjoying it by the way. :) I diiiiiiid! ;) Next time I know you're bored, watch it, I might put you to work! lol Hmm... but then I'd have to answer my PM's, now wouldn't I? >..< Unless you caught me on MSN. I do know there's something about spam in there, though.... hehe 

2008-09-13 [Linn Scarlett]: geh who cares :P

2010-08-10 [*Phoenix*]: What about the "Nightmare"? Maybe do a ECM contest for it! I'd be happy to enter it. ^_^

2010-11-09 [Linn Scarlett]: Hm you mean the horse or?

2010-11-13 [*Phoenix*]: Or?

Nightmare's a horse, but I don't know about any "horse or."


2010-11-13 [SilverFire]: Smart people can supply the final phrase for themselves. D:

2010-11-14 [*Phoenix*]: What are you talking about?

2010-11-14 [SilverFire]: I was mocking your mocking of Linn's sentence. "the horse or" = very obviously "the horse or something else?"

2010-11-14 [*Phoenix*]: I wasn't mocking. I thought maybe "or" was a name or something.

People should say what they mean....

2010-11-14 [SilverFire]: But it didn't have a capital letter. Also, I can read perfectly well without the bold. :P

People saying exactly what they mean would be very dull indeed. No irony, no satire, little wit. Half the nuance of language cast out. No thanks. <_<

2010-11-27 [*Phoenix*]: Well, excuse me... *bows out of this conversation*

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