2010-05-15 [*Phoenix*]: The whole point of Elfwood is for FANTASY artists, not just anything you want to draw you can put up. Therefore they have the mods there in place because of that fact. They don't want a picture of, let's say, a lion; they want a fantasy winged lion. They aren't meant to be like Deviantart and other places where you can post ALL of your work.

If you don't like that, the don't publish at Elfwood. Simple as that.

2010-05-15 [Serwa]: No need to get all heated.
They can also have a little trust in people, and let them upload and publish right away.
And mod it afterwards. This way it will feel like theres a little more freedom, and will make it more attractive for more fantasy artists to post works there.
Because right now people are staying away because the queues suck. It's as simple really.
Visitors could even tag nonfantasy items for fast removal. But since there's also the 'other works tab' there should be no big issues.

So wether it is for Fantasy Only or not is not the case, the queues are just not really necesary, and give a very north korean feeling to what should be an openminded artist community.

The problem is not with the fact that I want to draw lions,
no need to explain to me what Elfwood is.
The queues suck, and are not necesary is all I been saying.
Elfwood is fantasy themed and should stay fantasy themed.
You make it sounds like I want it to be a 2nd Deviant art.
Deviantart was only mentioned to show that it is possible to run an art site without queues.

2010-05-15 [wicked fae mage]: For me, Elftown lets me upload sketches weather they're realistic or fantasy with no judgment if I don't ask for it and there's no need to publish or queue anything. Though, I'm also not a big time painter or photo manipulator...mostly writing here.

Though I'm not a fan of Deviantart and other sites like that because of the ridiculous amount of effort needed to become a member. I sat there for three hours one night trying to be a Deviantart member, but it kept erroring me, telling me my email was wrong no matter how many times I typed it or a million other problems.

So if somebody's hoping to traffic more visitors either way, or members either way, those are a few problems I've run into and what generally keep me from a website as pointers.

2010-05-15 [Flisky]: It's supposed to be fantasy and sci-fi. It always has been. But for some of us, we like to post everything we make. That's why I prefer to upload here on ET instead. There is no queue, and I can upload whatever I want. ^_^

2010-05-15 [wicked fae mage]: Except pR0n and stolen art!

2010-05-15 [Flisky]: Well, the pROn depends on the wiki. And if it's original art work. 

But of course not stolen art.

2010-05-15 [*Phoenix*]: I'm not getting heated at all....(It's hard to tell with type, so just trust me on this.)

Moding afterwards would stink though. Just think, what if you uploaded a picture and had comments on it, and they go and delete it after people have already seen/commented on it. That would suck.

Yes, the quesues suck, but that's their way of doing it. They don't want to be just another online gallery:
Elfwood is a huge home to Fantasy/Sci-Fi art and literature. In respond to feedback from artists and viewers, Elfwood has expanded its site to cover a full range of Art, Fiction and How-To Guides. It is tightly controlled to stay within the SciFi/Fantasy theme, as art or stories depicting other motifs are not accepted. We host a wide range of original artwork to behold and inspire, and exciting tales to tantalize the imagination.

They WANT to keep it controlled. Like I said if you don't like it, just leave...

When you become a member you must agree to their terms and conditions (http://www.elfwood.com/erb/tosnice.html) and it says specifically:
Membership is available to both visitors and artists and writers who create material that is suitable within the Elfwood guidelines

It may seem like I'm being "heated," but I'm not. I like Elfwood because it was the first place I ever published my art and I have a great fondness for it. I don't like to see people bashing it. If you don't like it, there's no need for you to be there....

2010-05-15 [Flisky]: Very right, [*Phoenix*]. 

2010-05-15 [*Phoenix*]: Well, um...thank you?

2010-05-15 [Chel.]: PORN. If you're going to say it, say it. Not this "pROn" crap.

2010-05-15 [Flisky]: Fine. PORN! (Though at home we call it pron...*shrugs*)

2010-05-15 [Chel.]: :]

2010-05-15 [wicked fae mage]: Sorry, I like secret codes

2010-05-16 [Hendercrazy]: The thing I particularly like about the current Elfwood is that it's much more user friendly and easy to navigate/find stuff than any other fantasy art site I've been to. Even more cool is that fans can create a profile of their own, have the ability to favorite artists, writers and even specific works. I think it'll be enjoyable to getting back to some regularity there again. :)

2010-05-16 [Adaman]: Is there a better way to organize these wikis? My elftown name would place me at the beginning of the list with Art of Adaman. I don't like the feeling of bypassing all these pages and placing mine at top, only because of alphabetic coincidence.

2010-05-16 [Yncke]: Everyone has the possibility of choosing a name beginning with the letter A, if you chose something from the end of the alphabet, you know you'll be at the end with alphabetical orders. ;) I wouldn't worry about it if I were you, [Adaman]. You've got great art, just add the link!

2010-05-16 [Hendercrazy]: [Adaman]: Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. Just the fact that we have this wiki to find and follow art wikis and updates here on ET easier is really the main point. :D Your username just happens to start with an A. :P Originally, I was going to separate everything by various categories and only go by alphabetical wiki name... but ultimately decided that going with the username would be the most fair. ;)

2010-05-16 [Veltzeh]: We could do usernumbers and then I would be on top! X) Either way, no matter how the page is organised, some people will always be on the top and some on the bottom. Of course it's possible to alternate the order, for example always moving a list of one letter to the bottom from the top, but does anyone want to do that regularly?

2010-05-16 [Hendercrazy]: Yeah, a rolling index would be a lot of work. O_O :P

2010-05-16 [Hendercrazy]: Added a "Regular Username Changers" section to the index. This will be for anyone who changes their username with any frequency. Only one person has changed their username since putting up their wiki... so it really hasn't been an issue. However, you now have a place to go if you're one of those people. :D

2010-05-16 [Kyrinn]: I need to finish my public art wiki to put here.. O_O